Monosuited-flop playalong (weird hand)

droolie · #1 11-08-2005, 12:23 PM

MP2 is a LAG who will raise or reraise any A pf and has been lucksacking my stack off for the last hour and surely thinks I suck eggs at this point.

CO has only been at the table a couple orbits and has played pretty TAGish so far. At this point I think he's capable of pumping a draw.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em
Converted w/ PonksSaver: http://www.pokermentor.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=510
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PreFlop: HERO is UTG+1 with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (10 Players)
1 fold, HERO raises, 2 folds, MP2 calls, 1 fold, CO calls, 2 folds, BB calls,

Flop: (8.50 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 Players)
BB checks, HERO bets, MP2 calls, CO raises, BB calls, HERO???

edited to say the flop bet can be debated. (This playalong will only have one more decision to make.)

tiltaholic · #2 11-08-2005, 12:53 PM

bleh. our hand is highly vulnerable if it's best, and we likely can't get anyone to fold.

i don't hate the flop bet since MP2 could very likely raise any 2 cards and help us out. but now...i think i call the raise and see what the turn brings.

toss · #3 11-08-2005, 01:08 PM

I'm folding the flop. Each of the 3 villains seem interested in their hands. We have middle pair on a 3 flush board.

droolie · #4 11-08-2005, 01:19 PM

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MP2 is a LAG who will raise or reraise any A pf and has been lucksacking my stack off for the last hour and surely thinks I suck eggs at this point.

CO has only been at the table a couple orbits and has played pretty TAGish so far. At this point I think he's capable of pumping a draw.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em
Converted w/ PonksSaver: http://www.pokermentor.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=510
- - - HAND 2999291332 - - -
PreFlop: HERO is UTG+1 with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (10 Players)
1 fold, HERO raises, 2 folds, MP2 calls, 1 fold, CO calls, 2 folds, BB calls,

Flop: (8.50 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 Players)
BB checks, HERO bets, MP2 calls, CO raises, BB calls, HERO???

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I called. I'm still meh about that but when in doubt I usually pay to see the next card.

Four to the turn for 4+BB's
The turn is the T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
The action gets checked through!

Four to the river for 4+BB's

The river is 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
The action is checked to CO who bets. There's a fold and it's back on me with the LAG left to act...HERO???

toss · #5 11-08-2005, 01:27 PM

If you're thinking about calling this river then you should have betted out yourself. Personally I'm checkfolding since my hand is no good 4 way.

droolie · #6 11-08-2005, 01:56 PM

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If you're thinking about calling this river then you should have betted out yourself. Personally I'm checkfolding since my hand is no good 4 way.

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You prefer betting into four players to checking and possibly calling a CO bet?

What range of hands do you put CO on now? That turn check was very fishy. Looks like he got scared to me. I think there's a decent chance I have him beat and there's only one guy left to act (albeit a LAG who's been eating me for lunch but he's been quiet so far this hand) The pot is puny now so I guess it really doesn't matter...

adsman · #7 11-08-2005, 02:31 PM

It looks like you have CO beat. But what is your read on the LAG? Does he slowplay when he has something and bet when he's whiffed?

droolie · #8 11-08-2005, 02:39 PM

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It looks like you have CO beat. But what is your read on the LAG? Does he slowplay when he has something and bet when he's whiffed?

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He's only shown down winners and has played them all fast so far but I haven't seen him with the nuts yet. He would probably have bet the flop with naked A or K of [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and certainly with a made low flush (he had two chances to raise)

Besides that I have no clue what he's peeling this flop with. The turn getting checked through made this hand near impossible to put him on a hand. All I know is that he would have bet the river with a high flush card.

toss · #9 11-08-2005, 03:07 PM

Nm betting this river would be bad too. I think all your choices on the river suck. I would've let it go on the flop though. You're left with a tough decision where its easy to make a mistake. I think part of poker is avoiding putting yourself in tough spots like these.

droolie · #10 11-08-2005, 05:07 PM

I called the river MP2 folded. CO had a set of 5's MHIG.

CO typed "boo" in the chat box. I was in fact way behind on the flop and should have probably folded there. I suck out goot.