why WSOP main event only 10K?

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Try doing a bit of research.

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That's about twice the typical SportsCenter rating, and it's better than the average rating ESPN gets for regular-season games of such "major" sports as college football, Major League Baseball, the National Basketball Association and the Professional Golfer's Association.

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http://money.cnn.com/2004/07/09/comm...biz/sportsbiz/

Is it beating the main networks like ABC, NBC, CBS? probably not, but then they don't televise much poker...only one has attempted it thus far so there really is no comparing at this point.

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You have now proven that you are, in fact, a moran.

You tell me to do a bit of research when the one article that you point to actually contradicts your point. Maybe you thought I wouldn't read the entire article you linked to, but it seems to me that you forgot to quote the parts that say:

"Of course, there are risks for all those betting on the continued growth of the sport on television."

"If that's true, there's probably a limit on how big an audience it will be able to reach. Even with the growth if Internet gambling and legalized casinos popping up around the country, there are only so many gamblers out there."

"The sports that build the large, sustainable audiences are the ones which draw participants and non-participants alike, like football and Nascar."

"Another risk is that the market will soon become flooded with poker on television. Even the industry's poker advocates foresee a time -- perhaps soon -- when there is just too much."

"Frankly, as ironic as it sounds, the inability of viewers to bet on the games they're watching is an issue, too. (Football and basketball would have a fraction of their current audiences if there weren't viewers out there with money on the games.)"

"Since poker tournaments take longer to play than can be watched easily, live events will stay the exception not the rule. And taped events take away the ability to bet on the games, unless you're lucky enough to find a particularly dumb bettor."


In other words, while there is current popularity in poker and TV coverage, don't count on it growing to the level of mainstream, prestigious "real sports."


I love it when someone tells me to do the research when they have failed to do so themselves. A quick google shows at least the following:

Average college football game: about a 5 - 7 share.
Average NFL football game: about a 9 - 11 share.
The article you quoted says 1.9 share.

And, we are just talking TV ratings. Let's not even get into the numbers of people actually attending the respective events.

My point, that you seem unable to grasp, isn't that Poker isn't popular. Of course, it is popular ... for a small group of very devoted fans and players. But, the idea that the WSOP will become a prestigious event that is attended and viewed by mainstream audiences just isn't going to happen.

I rest my case.

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NCaces I just had to go back and reread your statement.

I mean no disrespect but you gotta lay off the smack, the crack or chronic, whatever it is you be smoking boy...LOL

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The WSOP will never be any more than that because most people just don't care. And there is nothing the WSOP can do to make any of the poker pros popular or prestigious outside a teeny, tiny group of people.

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Poker is already a mainstream event. Never in the history of poker has it been more widely accepted.

Poker stars are just that now. Poker STARSSSSSS!!!!
They are dating hollywood starlets, being wooed by Hollywood leading men to teach them how to play.

I would wager that a larger majority of college males across america knows who Doyle Brunson is vs the starting gaurd for the Dallas Mavericks.

I would even wager that a surprisingly large number of college females would know too.

You're way off base man. Poker as Paris would say is HOT.

You can walk into Walgreens and find poker merchandise from chips, to tables to DVDS.

It's in Wal-mart, Kmart, anywhere and everywhere you turn there is poker.

And most of it was due to Chris Moneymaker winning the WSOP...that's why the event went from 2,700 to over 5,000.

Turn on tv and you're gonna find poker on somewhere. Whether it's Bravo, the Travel channel, Fox, or GSN. Poker is around.

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Why am I wasting my time. It is obvious that you hang out with poker players, watch poker players, and don't do much else in life. So, you sit there in your little echo chamber and just because everyone you hang out with is involved with poker, you somehow extrapolate that to mean that it is mainstream. You must be boring to talk to at a cocktail part ... "there I was, pocket Aces, and can you believe this guy kept betting into me" as eveyone rolls their eyes, yawns, and walks away to go jump off a tall building instead of listening to you prattle on.

As to poker start being real "stars," you have to be kidding me. You must be Rocks and Rings to believe that.

Walmart? I have been able to walk into Walmart and buy badmitton and croquet sets, as well as table tennis equipment, for years. Doesn't make them mainstream sport (more like a gaming event).

I have a suggestion ... stand up, take your fingers off the keyboard, and move slowly away from the computer and you online poker rooms. Stay out of casinos for a few weeks. Get out and about and realize how irrelevant poker is to 99% of the population. It will be good for you.

Finally, understand that I am one of the poker players and fans. So, I am not putting it down. I am just putting it in context with the rest of the world ... the one we all live in ... not the imaginary one that you live in.

Oh, yeah, and I am mean no disprepect by any of this.

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See but the thing is, I disagree with your sentiment, and the OP, so my post was negative in manner because I think a drastic increase in the Main Event buy in is an awful idea.

Now seriously, please stop making a fool of yourself. My posts haven't come close to resembling what you have said. My original post stated why I thought it was a bad idea for a 50K buy in from a personal stand point, and then pointed out why Harrahs also think it is a bad idea, since when discussing the WSOP, one should also consider who owns it.

There's no reason to be so darn defensive when someone disagrees with you, especially over a topic so silly.

[MegaBet]

TopThis - shut up.

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blah blah blah I have no idea what I am talking about. NCAces

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Now also try checking out 1-800-abcdefg because hooked on phonics just might work for thee.

Nowhere did I say in my post above that poker was AS popular as mainstream sports in the proper venues.

That article goes to show that it gets better viewership than mainstream sports on ESPN...I already conceded that it couldn't compete with ABC, NBC, CBS etc...it's also kind of hard to compare when poker isn't even shown on those channels on a regular basis.

But for you to sit there and keep saying that poker is not mainstream you sir are a fool and I mean that with as much disrespect as I can muster.

It is now more mainstream than it has ever been in it's history and if you are too hard headed to open up your eyes and realise that there is no helping you.