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10-16-2005, 05:32 PM
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Re: I understand now!
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You use your [censored] head. Jesus christ. Quit quoting the "2.13/hr" number. You know you are going to get tips over time. [/ QUOTE ] This is quite true, but I'm simply explaining to people that tips are almost all of my income. [ QUOTE ] Don't [censored] bitch about the one time you got [censored] stiffed. [/ QUOTE ] I've seen a lot worse threads in this forum. Also, I've already said that I'm over it. Now I'm simply defending myself against the hoards. [ QUOTE ] Don't tell me how hard your [censored] job is either. [/ QUOTE ] I didn't. But, read below for a little clarification. [ QUOTE ] You wait tables. I paved driveways for 3 years and you know how many times I got a tip, once for $20 split 6 ways. [/ QUOTE ] Apples and oranges. I've had a shitty manual labor job before, and I can't at all compare it to my server job. The stresses are just completely different. With my manual labor job, I'd be working my ass off physically for hours on end in the hot sun. At my server job, I stay indoors and talk to people. Sure, I carry food, but it's not heavy. However, the stresses are completely different. A manual labor job works your muscles hard. A server job works your brain hard. If you laugh at that, go get a server job for a week and see what I mean. We've had people walk off the job during a big dinner rush. Let me just put it this way: I fly multiengine aircraft in instrument conditions, and there are times when my server job is more difficult. Also, in regards to your "$20 split 6 ways": Were you considered a tipped employee by the government, or...? 
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10-16-2005, 05:42 PM
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Re: I understand now!
I worked serving/bartending in the summer. The one thing I learned is some people don't tip and some people suck and are just bad people and you need to ignore them. Of course you get the 20% tippers who come in every day, who are the nicest people you'll ever meet and who always understand if you mess something up and they make up for the people that complain because there water doesn't have exactly 25 ice cubes in it like they asked for and the people who don't tip well because there ignorant or just cheap.
Anyone who said it is fine not to tip if the service is bad is compleatly wrong. 10% is the absolute minimum you should ever tip. Part of going to eat somewhere is paying for the service, not only the food. Therefore if you got no service it would be ok to tip nothing but for any type of service 10% should be minimum. On another note quit your job and play poker, it's way more profitable.
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10-16-2005, 08:08 PM
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Re: I understand now!
</font><blockquote><font class="small">En réponse à:</font><hr />
Let me just put it this way: I fly multiengine aircraft in instrument conditions, and there are times when my server job is more difficult. [/ QUOTE ] Well, I'm sure this has nothing to do with your excellent people skills.
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10-16-2005, 08:10 PM
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Re: I understand now!
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[ QUOTE ] Let me just put it this way: I fly multiengine aircraft in instrument conditions, and there are times when my server job is more difficult. [/ QUOTE ] Well, I'm sure this has nothing to do with your excellent people skills. [/ QUOTE ] Actually (if you've ever done the job), the challenge doesn't come from dealing with people, it comes from being able to memorize a large amount of information, prioritize your tasks, and do a large amount of multitasking.
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10-16-2005, 08:12 PM
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Re: I understand now!
</font><blockquote><font class="small">En réponse à:</font><hr />
</font><blockquote><font class="small">En réponse à:</font><hr /> </font><blockquote><font class="small">En réponse à:</font><hr /> Let me just put it this way: I fly multiengine aircraft in instrument conditions, and there are times when my server job is more difficult. [/ QUOTE ] Well, I'm sure this has nothing to do with your excellent people skills. [/ QUOTE ] Actually (if you've ever done the job), the challenge doesn't come from dealing with people, it comes from being able to memorize a large amount of information, prioritize your tasks, and do a large amount of multitasking. [/ QUOTE ] Obviously, none of which are applicable while flying an airplane.
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10-16-2005, 08:15 PM
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Re: I understand now!
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Obviously, none of which are applicable while flying an airplane. [/ QUOTE ] Huh? Of course they're applicable. Are you a pilot too? I compared two jobs that require a lot of the same basic skills. What exactly are you trying to accomplish here?
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#7
10-16-2005, 10:00 PM
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Re: I understand now!
Is it standard in all states that serving positions get paid below min. wage since they get tips??? Never heard of this before and it sounds horrible.
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10-16-2005, 10:25 PM
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Re: I understand now!
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Is it standard in all states that serving positions get paid below min. wage since they get tips??? Never heard of this before and it sounds horrible. [/ QUOTE ] I believe the law (at least in my state) is that if wages + tips < minimum wage, then the employer has to make up the difference.
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10-16-2005, 10:28 PM
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Re: I understand now!
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Is it standard in all states that serving positions get paid below min. wage since they get tips??? Never heard of this before and it sounds horrible. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, that's pretty standard. I have to wonder how the government arrived at the figure of $2.13 an hour, though. I mean, why not $2.15 or $2.00? Why make it such a weird amount?
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