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Old 09-20-2005, 06:33 PM
mojobluesman mojobluesman is offline
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Default Top Pair Medium Kicker

What do you do in a situation like this?

Calling the flop raise seemed like a no brainer. I might have the best hand and even if he had a better Ace, I had a backdoor str8 and flush, plus 3 possible Ts as outs.

Calling turn bet seemed fine because I still had the inside str8 draw and 3 possible Ts as outs.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: (9.50 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, MP3 folds, Button folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (8.75 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero ?.

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Old 09-20-2005, 06:39 PM
kapw7 kapw7 is offline
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Default Re: Top Pair Medium Kicker

Noone can give any definitive replies as you provide no reads.
Folding the river would be a disater.
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Old 09-20-2005, 06:39 PM
TwoShedsJackson TwoShedsJackson is offline
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Default Re: Top Pair Medium Kicker

Make things easier on yourself and 3 bet the flop.
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Old 09-20-2005, 06:40 PM
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Default Re: Top Pair Medium Kicker

I reraise the flop and bet the turn if he calls. If he reraises, I badly need a read here.
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Old 09-20-2005, 06:46 PM
mojobluesman mojobluesman is offline
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Default Re: Top Pair Medium Kicker

Unfortunately, I had no read on this player yet. It was the first round at the table.
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Old 09-20-2005, 06:50 PM
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Default Re: Top Pair Medium Kicker

What does re-raising the flop accomplish unless he re-raises me and screams that he has me beat?

If he has me outkicked, he's not going to fold. He'll call down with the better hand. It will wind up costing me an extra small bet when I am behind.
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Old 09-20-2005, 07:01 PM
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If he reraises you can get out cheaply, instead of calling down.
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Old 09-20-2005, 08:24 PM
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Default Re: Top Pair Medium Kicker

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If he reraises you can get out cheaply, instead of calling down.

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You're folding TPGK in .5/1 w/o reads??
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Old 09-20-2005, 08:34 PM
tyler_cracker tyler_cracker is offline
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Default Re: Top Pair Medium Kicker

Why not just use a WA/WB line after the flop raise (check-call turn, bet-fold river)? I definitely prefer that to 3-betting the flop and then folding somewhere.

Against crappy opponents, though, they're never going to fold their inferior A (and may not raise with AQ or AJ anyway), so i would 3-bet the flop and just keep leading.

Without a read, it's kind of a toss up.
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Old 09-20-2005, 08:47 PM
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Default Re: Top Pair Medium Kicker

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Why not just use a WA/WB line after the flop raise (check-call turn, bet-fold river)?

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IMO because we're WA much more often than WB. I 3-bizzle the fizzle.
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