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04-05-2005, 08:00 AM
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Re: I believe in Santa Claus
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I think the point is that David seems to be debating logically against people whose beliefs don't rely on logic. [/ QUOTE ] Or - in the words of St. Thomas Aquinas "To one who has faith, no explanation is necessary. To one without faith, no explanation is possible." The words 'faith' and 'belief' tend to indicate a position that is not amenable to logical arguement. 
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04-05-2005, 12:42 PM
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Re: I believe in Santa Claus
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Or - in the words of St. Thomas Aquinas "To one who has faith, no explanation is necessary. To one without faith, no explanation is possible." The words 'faith' and 'belief' tend to indicate a position that is not amenable to logical arguement. [/ QUOTE ] Ahh the power of context. Lets not forget that St Thomas Acquinas very much believed that much of religion could be supported with rational reasoning. Of course one of the problems with David's assertion is that many of history's greatest minds have been strongly religious. I am sure they had the ability to evaluate evidence rationally, esp. given one of the people I am thinking of formulated the laws of motion. People that think there is no evidence pointing towards the existence of God and the truth of Christianity are the ones that are truly believing in something foolish.
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04-05-2005, 06:17 PM
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People that think there is no evidence pointing towards the existence of God and the truth of Christianity are the ones that are truly believing in something foolish. [/ QUOTE ] Not IMO - the foolish ones are the people who base their entire lives on evidence that, frankly, wouldn't sell me a secondhand car.
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04-05-2005, 06:47 PM
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Re: I believe in Santa Claus
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[ QUOTE ] People that think there is no evidence pointing towards the existence of God and the truth of Christianity are the ones that are truly believing in something foolish. [/ QUOTE ] Not IMO - the foolish ones are the people who base their entire lives on evidence that, frankly, wouldn't sell me a secondhand car. [/ QUOTE ] You can twist all you want but there are strong rational reasons for the existence of God and the truth of Christianity. To ignore that evidence or try to dismiss it out of hand without doing a true evaluation shows the real follower of blind faith.
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04-05-2005, 11:21 PM
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Re: I believe in Santa Claus
imo, every Christian should read the works of Hans Kung, especially his book, "On Being a Christian". It's also worth reading by people who argue against Christianity. It's an eye opener. Kung was highly influencial during the Second Vatican Council lead by Pope John. His works were taught in Catholic Seminaries until later in his life when he came out with "On the Infallibility of the Pope". The Church couldn't swallow that one.
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04-06-2005, 05:37 AM
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[ QUOTE ] there are strong rational reasons for the [...] truth of Christianity. [/ QUOTE ] I believe this statement to be very untrue--please elaborate. [/ QUOTE ]
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04-06-2005, 01:03 PM
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Re: I believe in Santa Claus
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[ QUOTE ] there are strong rational reasons for the [...] truth of Christianity. [/ QUOTE ] I believe this statement to be very untrue--please elaborate. [/ QUOTE ] Frankly, this forum isnt appropriate to that sort of sweeping discussion. Perhaps if there are certain parts of Christianity that you have objection to or you think are particularly weak, it might make it a more viable to discuss in these forums.
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04-06-2005, 03:05 PM
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Re: I believe in Santa Claus
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] there are strong rational reasons for the [...] truth of Christianity. [/ QUOTE ] I believe this statement to be very untrue--please elaborate. [/ QUOTE ] Frankly, this forum isnt appropriate to that sort of sweeping discussion. Perhaps if there are certain parts of Christianity that you have objection to or you think are particularly weak, it might make it a more viable to discuss in these forums. [/ QUOTE ] How is it inappropriate?
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