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08-22-2005, 03:14 PM
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Re: Online poker’s days are numbered ?
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Many thanks for your replies so far. Perhaps detection could be a problem for the sites. You could use a second PC, that wasn't even connected to the internet ... [/ QUOTE ] Ooooooooor, you could learn to not suck at poker. 
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08-22-2005, 05:08 PM
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Re: Online poker’s days are numbered ?
You really think there is a program that can counter this donks moves.....heeeee aaaaaright
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#14
08-22-2005, 05:13 PM
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Re: Online poker’s days are numbered ?
Never thought of that. Thank you for bringing up this topic.
tess
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08-23-2005, 05:27 AM
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Re: Online poker’s days are numbered ?
Your comment is much appreciated - thank you Tess. I guess I didn't express the issue very clearly, as most of the (serious) respondents seemed to think I was talking about bots. I will do some more research on this, and post again if I find out anything interesting.
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08-23-2005, 06:10 AM
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Re: Online poker’s days are numbered ?
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Many thanks for your replies so far. Perhaps detection could be a problem for the sites. You could use a second PC, that wasn't even connected to the internet ... [/ QUOTE ] Another chess analogy: There are actually internet chess tournaments with cash prizes. The hosts (eg Chessbase) use advanced engine detection programs, that exclusively analyze playing style (since the cheaters are using second computers). It is quite common that engine users are caught. I don't know if such software can be written for poker, but I assume the sites will try.
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08-23-2005, 06:25 AM
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Re: Online poker’s days are numbered ?
Thanks Innocentius : that's exactly the analogy for what I'm thinking of.
Do you know how successful these "playing style" detection programs are? I wonder how many times you have to play before a pattern emerges. It'd be interesting to know how this would apply to a game like Hold'em ...
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#19
08-23-2005, 09:31 AM
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Re: Online poker’s days are numbered ?
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Do you know how successful these "playing style" detection programs are? I wonder how many times you have to play before a pattern emerges. It'd be interesting to know how this would apply to a game like Hold'em ... [/ QUOTE ] In chess, the detection programs are extremely accurate, because all information is available to evaluate "optimal" play in any single game. In Poker, all information is not available, so "optimal" play cannot be easily evaluated, and bots designed to avoid detection cannot be easily detected.
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#20
08-23-2005, 10:14 AM
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When you design a bot, you design it to beat the table. A good player plays a strategy that will beat the table, and is also able to adjust to particular players. Bots will be winning money from most of the table, but they will be losing some of it back to better players becuase those better learn to exploit them.
Once a programmer has a bot engine that wins, the focus changes from making the engine better to making it more undetectable. I'm not too concerned about bots at the moment. Stu
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