Do you call heads up in this situation?

[Jonathan]

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The fact that you ask this question means that you seriously need to reevaluate your SNG game.

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Thats exactly what I am trying to do. Thats why I am bringing
this up. Its clear that virtually everyone (except me) thinks
that this is an automatic fold. But so far, no one has actually
given a REASON, except for the gentleman who said the hand
is a 52:48 dog to a random hand. If thats true, then I agree
its a fold. But how do you determine that 87s is a 52:48
dog to a random hand?

Thanks for all the input....I appreciate it.

Suerte,
Jonathan

[adanthar]

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But how do you determine that 87s is a 52:48
dog to a random hand?

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www.pokerstove.com

[11t]

I would want at least ten high to call my stack off HU.

With 20xbb you can find a better spot though.

[kyro]

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But how do you determine that 87s is a 52:48
dog to a random hand?

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www.pokerstove.com

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If you need PokerStove to realize this is an awful call...yikes.

[Jonathan]

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You are a 52:48 dog to a random hand, for crying out loud.

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I am? Where does this come from?

Suerte,
Jonathan

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It comes from the fact you have EIGHT HIGH.

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OK...But what I meant was, is there some tool available that
you use to calculate that 87s is a 52:48 dog to a random
hand? What about JTs? What about 55? How do these compare
to a random hand.

For example, I've used Poker Stove to compare one specific
hand against another. But can you also use it, or some
similar tool, to compare 87s to a range of hands, rather than
just one hand?

That would help clarify things for me.

Thanks,
Jonathan

[pergesu]

Did you know that if he's pushing 100% of hands, it's STILL a fold?

Calling here is retarded. Run the ICM to see why.

[Jonathan]

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But how do you determine that 87s is a 52:48
dog to a random hand?

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www.pokerstove.com

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OK....I see you can input a range of hands for the second
player. Thanks for the useful info. So I see it is
fold.

In the actual hand, opponent had 55 in which case it was
a dead heat. I caught a 7 on the flop which held up,
and my opponent went ballistic berating me for a HORRIBLE
call.

I guess everyone here agrees with him [img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img]

Suerte,
Jonathan

Is Jonathan for real?

[Jonathan]

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Is Jonathan for real?

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What do you mean, ucla? You think I'm pulling
the groups leg here?

Jonathan

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Is Jonathan for real?

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What do you mean, ucla? You think I'm pulling
the groups leg here?

Jonathan

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Are you?