Seems like you guys spend more time talking about money than poker

[ZenMusician]

I caught TC maybe 5 or 6 times. Without fail, it was
the episode where the chick tiger ran through a cave
at like the speed of light to avoid aging or something.

Did they actually have more than this episode?

I think about things like this WAY more than taxes...

-ZEN

[imported_smoove]

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I caught TC maybe 5 or 6 times. Without fail, it was
the episode where the chick tiger ran through a cave
at like the speed of light to avoid aging or something.

Did they actually have more than this episode?

I think about things like this WAY more than taxes...

-ZEN

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Tiger? She's a cheetah, man. That's how she can run the speed of light. Cheetara

Hank Dank,

Thank you, I can understand your curiosity with figuring out the best ways to cover your assests when it comes to taxes. That's a problem I don't have yet. My main focus is on poker and improving.

I've never been to concerned with money. I have a little bit, enough to get by, that's about all I care about. I never been very materialistic. I don't drive a nice car, don't have too many nice things. I enjoy winning, I like to win, I'm a very competitive person. I guess I was just venting a little bit because I was looking for good posts on poker topics that would make me think about poker and most of what I saw on here was about taxes.

I didn't know I'd create this firestorm or upset so many people. I was hoping to challenge everyone to think about poker more, that's all. If I am as one player put it a "Fish" than here is an opportunity for ya'll to have a wide open look into my mind and see exactly what I'm thinking when I play, I've went in the last 3 months from anytime I have a pocket pair I'm raising and raising big to just calling with anything Jacks or lower, to now raising with Jacks on occasion, to All in with Aces, to now just standard raises, from playing hands because I thought they were "lucky" to playing the starting hands according to a few starting hand guides I've found. To now I mix it up and bluff on occasion. I mean you might find some rich guy that doesn't know too much about poker sitting at your table one day, and he could be playing alot like I've been playing or play now and you'd have a deeper insight into that play, if this were a more open forum for discussion, than the place to hurl insults that it's quickly become.

I mean I just broke my hand tonight at work which will no doubt effect my income and I gotta come home and the first thing I read on here, is two insults. Nice!

Hopefully though, Hank Dank myself and you and others can just talk poker and everybody's game will benefit.

[jaxUp]

In all honesty, I think OP's intentions were good, but his tone was just abrasive. Yes this is a poker forum and people are at a level where discussing taxes is a serious issue and I think T-cat understands that now. If people wish to continue to hate, please contribute to my Christmas Haiku thread in OOT.

[Reef]

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My main focus is on poker and improving.

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study, read, play, coach/lessons

[sthief09]

what does anyone owe you?

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what does anyone owe you?

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Thank god. I was beginning to wonder if anybody was gonna say it.

i just got off the phone with Ivey and we were discussing about taxes.

he also that in his sleep, he thinks more about taxes than poker... and why God sometimes gives him a "handy" at night.

:/

[cnfuzzd]

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I appreciate everyone's feedback, First of let me say there are so many tabs on the left side of this website (35 or so) that it's hard to nail down exactly which one I should post in, I guess I'll try the Small stakes no limit and pot limit forum from now on.

Secondly, in response to Dankhank's post My Quote "isn't there a famous saying about counting your chickens before they hatch?" DankHank "Yea, but we are counting our chickens after they hatched" Oh really? I guess that depends on your goals as a poker player, DankHank have I seen you on ESPN playing poker, or on the travel channel playing poker on the WPT or on Poker Superstars, or Ultimate Poker Challenge? I don't remember hearing your name when I've been watching those events. Maybe you have a comfortable living playing online and maybe that's nice for you, but that's not my goal

My goal is to play in the big events, and I don't think I'm going to get there by once I've gained a comfortable living from playing poker sitting back and counting up all my money, patting myself on the back, talking about TAXES????? Who gives a bleep!, just play poker, do you think that when Phil Ivey, Chris Ferguson, Gus Hansen, Daniel Negreanu, or any poker pro got to the point you are at now, they started thiking about taxes and asking questions like, can you really make $100,000 a year online playing poker? I know they didn't, they got to playing poker all they could and learning more and more and talking about POKER (not money) and the money took care of itself, That's my only point. So if you are comfortable at $100,000 good for you. But for others like I mentioned I'm sure they were not comfortable they probably went bust a few times with that money trying to make more and play higher stakes and get BETTER, and eventually they did. And you won't get there by patting yourself on the back so much for being a winning player. Okay so you win, on what level???

I'm coming here to learn all I can to be a winning player, be a GREAT player, in 2 years I want to be in the WSOP (2007), in 5 years I want to make the money and after that who knows, but I know I will never stop feeling like I have more to learn and I won't stop to spend the majority of my time counting money, I don't do that when I leave the Casino, I don't worry about money I worry about poker, I think maybe you should too

As for the Questions I asked, yes you all did do a fantastic job of answering them, I apologize at the time of my post I had not seen those responses so I was frustrated a bit. I got some different answers, but that's good gives me more to think about and chew. Thank you all for responding. And also I didn't mean to be confrontial, I was so I apologize I meant maybe to give you guys a kick in the pants, get a little motivated and thirsty again, I'll admit it I suck right now, I'd even classify myself as a fish still.

Last night I left Winstar with $220 profit, but that could have easily been $220 loss. But I did alot of things you're suppose to do right playing poker. I stole the blinds from position several times, I reraised all in on a semi-bluff and got a guy to fold Kings (which were an overpair to the board, J,9,8) I made a reraise and than folded when i noticed the guy's hands who reraised me all in were shaking like a wet dog, he turned over Aces (and he had Aces 3 of the last 6 hands, I think he got some kind of pleasure showing them) I did other things right, mostly played well excepts for two bad calls. I'm not trying to pat myself on the back I suck. I'm down $1,200 from when I started playing poker 7 months ago, but I'm getting better and I play 30-40 hours week whenever I can, whenever I'm not at work. And if you get too comfortable and too lazy counting your money, I'll surpass you, Good luck ya'll

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i will give you 100:1 on any amount of money up to 500, 50:1 on anything up to 1K that you will not make the money in the wsop me anytime in the next five years. Have fun at the wynnstar.

peace

john nickle

[jman220]

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I appreciate everyone's feedback, First of let me say there are so many tabs on the left side of this website (35 or so) that it's hard to nail down exactly which one I should post in, I guess I'll try the Small stakes no limit and pot limit forum from now on.

Secondly, in response to Dankhank's post My Quote "isn't there a famous saying about counting your chickens before they hatch?" DankHank "Yea, but we are counting our chickens after they hatched" Oh really? I guess that depends on your goals as a poker player, DankHank have I seen you on ESPN playing poker, or on the travel channel playing poker on the WPT or on Poker Superstars, or Ultimate Poker Challenge? I don't remember hearing your name when I've been watching those events. Maybe you have a comfortable living playing online and maybe that's nice for you, but that's not my goal

My goal is to play in the big events, and I don't think I'm going to get there by once I've gained a comfortable living from playing poker sitting back and counting up all my money, patting myself on the back, talking about TAXES????? Who gives a bleep!, just play poker, do you think that when Phil Ivey, Chris Ferguson, Gus Hansen, Daniel Negreanu, or any poker pro got to the point you are at now, they started thiking about taxes and asking questions like, can you really make $100,000 a year online playing poker? I know they didn't, they got to playing poker all they could and learning more and more and talking about POKER (not money) and the money took care of itself, That's my only point. So if you are comfortable at $100,000 good for you. But for others like I mentioned I'm sure they were not comfortable they probably went bust a few times with that money trying to make more and play higher stakes and get BETTER, and eventually they did. And you won't get there by patting yourself on the back so much for being a winning player. Okay so you win, on what level???

I'm coming here to learn all I can to be a winning player, be a GREAT player, in 2 years I want to be in the WSOP (2007), in 5 years I want to make the money and after that who knows, but I know I will never stop feeling like I have more to learn and I won't stop to spend the majority of my time counting money, I don't do that when I leave the Casino, I don't worry about money I worry about poker, I think maybe you should too

As for the Questions I asked, yes you all did do a fantastic job of answering them, I apologize at the time of my post I had not seen those responses so I was frustrated a bit. I got some different answers, but that's good gives me more to think about and chew. Thank you all for responding. And also I didn't mean to be confrontial, I was so I apologize I meant maybe to give you guys a kick in the pants, get a little motivated and thirsty again, I'll admit it I suck right now, I'd even classify myself as a fish still.

Last night I left Winstar with $220 profit, but that could have easily been $220 loss. But I did alot of things you're suppose to do right playing poker. I stole the blinds from position several times, I reraised all in on a semi-bluff and got a guy to fold Kings (which were an overpair to the board, J,9,8) I made a reraise and than folded when i noticed the guy's hands who reraised me all in were shaking like a wet dog, he turned over Aces (and he had Aces 3 of the last 6 hands, I think he got some kind of pleasure showing them) I did other things right, mostly played well excepts for two bad calls. I'm not trying to pat myself on the back I suck. I'm down $1,200 from when I started playing poker 7 months ago, but I'm getting better and I play 30-40 hours week whenever I can, whenever I'm not at work. And if you get too comfortable and too lazy counting your money, I'll surpass you, Good luck ya'll

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i will give you 100:1 on any amount of money up to 500, 50:1 on anything up to 1K that you will not make the money in the wsop me anytime in the next five years. Have fun at the wynnstar.

peace

john nickle

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Damn man, give me odds even close to that and you'll make it worth my while to actually play.