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Old 12-15-2005, 03:08 PM
Irieguy Irieguy is offline
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Default Re: River decision/am I committed?

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I totally disagree with this line. If I raise and he shoves, I have to fold a hand that has a ton of cards that could improve my equity here. Playing post flop is fun.

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You have 640 chips and the pot is 220 to you on the flop. There's no "playing post flop" here.

Just get it in on the flop. All other options are worse.

Irieguy
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Old 12-15-2005, 03:10 PM
wuwei wuwei is offline
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Default Re: River decision/am I committed?

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You have 640 chips and the pot is 220 to you on the flop. There's no "playing post flop" here.

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Bingo.
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Old 12-15-2005, 03:21 PM
Marc H Marc H is offline
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Default Re: River decision/am I committed?

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You have 640 chips and the pot is 220 to you on the flop. There's no "playing post flop" here.

Just get it in on the flop. All other options are worse.

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Ditto.
And when your flop flat-call results in your losing all your chips to a club flush? That's Sklansky's "mathematical catastrophe" hitting you in the face.
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Old 12-15-2005, 03:34 PM
johnnybeef johnnybeef is offline
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Default Re: River decision/am I committed?

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You have 640 chips and the pot is 220 to you on the flop. There's no "playing post flop" here.

Just get it in on the flop. All other options are worse.

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Ditto.
And when your flop flat-call results in your losing all your chips to a club flush? That's Sklansky's "mathematical catastrophe" hitting you in the face.

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I had the ace of clubs so this doesn't really apply here. Shoving the flop was never really a thought in my mind for some reason, even though, now it is totally the obvious play to me.
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Old 12-15-2005, 03:36 PM
The Yugoslavian The Yugoslavian is offline
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Default Re: River decision/am I committed?

beefy,

In such short stack tournament play....shoving should *always* be something you consider.

Yugoslav
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