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#1
09-15-2005, 05:04 PM
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Isolate or play multiway with 3 cards to royal?
Villain had been seen to play and raise with very weak hands. Still, my hand seemed like one of the few that could be better off calling and letting others in. Who votes what?
Site: PartyPoker 20/40 7 Card Stud -- Hand Converter Third Street Seat 1: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]_____folds Seat 3: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]_____folds Seat 4: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]_____brings-in_____folds Seat 5: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]_____completes_____calls Seat 6: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]_____folds Seat 7: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]_____folds Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ------raises Fourth Street Seat 5: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]_____checks_____calls Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]_____bets Fifth Street Seat 5: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]_____checks_____calls Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]_____bets Sixth Street Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]_____bets_____calls River Seat 5: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]_____bets_____calls Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]_____checks PS grb, on 3rd street the converter didn't show my hand, how weird. I will e-mail you the history. 
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#2
09-15-2005, 05:46 PM
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Re: Isolate or play multiway with 3 cards to royal?
it seems like quite a few streets are acting up
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#3
09-15-2005, 05:54 PM
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Re: Isolate or play multiway with 3 cards to royal?
River looks funny too.... you did check raise right? the action reads
Villian bets__ calls Hero checks on river and 6th hero is missing
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#4
09-15-2005, 05:58 PM
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FIXED original post
Heh, funny that I saw the first part and missed the rest. Too late to edit unfortunately.
Site: PartyPoker These hand histories are -- Hand Converter Third Street Seat 1: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]_____folds Seat 3: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]_____folds Seat 4: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]_____brings-in_____folds Seat 5: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]_____completes_____calls Seat 6: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]_____folds Seat 7: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]_____folds Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] _____raises Fourth Street Seat 5: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]_____checks_____calls Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]_____bets Fifth Street Seat 5: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]_____checks_____calls Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]_____bets Sixth Street Seat 5: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]_____raises Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]_____bets_____calls River Seat 5: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]_____bets_____calls Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]_____checks_____raises
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#5
09-15-2005, 06:36 PM
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Re: FIXED original post
I vote call (because the ante is so low blah blah). I would be happier about raising if, say, he raised with a king up (just because that means my ace is live).
But I can see raising here too. Interesting 6th street - river play btw… why not just 3-bet on 6th? He might check the river behind, right?
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#6
09-15-2005, 06:47 PM
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Re: FIXED original post
I think on 3rd you should mix it up a bit but I agree with Roland about the live aces being better if you raise.
Against an average 5/10 player I am 3 betting 6th but I think a 20/40 player may be good enough to dump 2 pair to the 3-bet or a lead on 7th if they dont improve so I like your line against a good player.
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#7
09-15-2005, 06:52 PM
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Re: Isolate or play multiway with 3 cards to royal?
I don't really see the advantage in raising unless you think that the raiser is unlikely to have aces. I think that although he probably has quite a wide range here, including three flushes, pairs in the hole and some high bags, there is a fair chance that he does have the aces he's representing. Are you not better to call and then raise if you make a pair later.
I also think I prefer just to reraise 6th and have done with it. I could see players who would check behind on the river especially if he has a hand like aces up or small trips, rather than the wheel.
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#10
09-15-2005, 09:00 PM
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Re: Isolate or play multiway with 3 cards to royal?
You need to 3-bet sixth here. If he has a wheel and puts you on a trips (AA or TT in the hole) he might even cap on sixth. Few players are capable of folding for one more bet on sixth after already raising. Moreover, many players will check the river, costing you the bet, since they fear you filled up or hit the flush.
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