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Old 12-13-2005, 10:23 AM
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Just curious, Jd 4d preflop. Noone at table folds on anything. Under normal circumstances would you have suggested a fold or hang in to see the flop? Just curious. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 12-13-2005, 10:28 AM
Kurn, son of Mogh Kurn, son of Mogh is offline
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Fold unless you get to call for 1/2 bet in the SB after a few limpers.
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Old 12-13-2005, 10:33 AM
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How many players? What's your position? How many callers are already in the pot? Has the pot been raised? Post-flop, how likely are you to be paid off if you hit a big hand (three diamonds, a pair of fours, or two jacks + a four on the flop). How aggressive and/or tricky is the table? Unless the answer to all these questions is favorable, you should fold this pre-flop.
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Old 12-13-2005, 10:37 AM
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cool thanks
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Old 12-13-2005, 03:19 PM
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i like to play a J-4s. you can make a straight on the low end, or on the high end...plus you could get a flush, 2 pair, or trips.

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Old 12-13-2005, 03:31 PM
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Default Re: Jd 4d preflop

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i like to play a J-4s. you can make a straight on the low end, or on the high end...plus you could get a flush, 2 pair, or trips.


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But it only makes one flush, so it should be played more conservatively than J4o.
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Old 12-13-2005, 03:37 PM
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Default Re: Jd 4d preflop

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i like to play a J-4s. you can make a straight on the low end, or on the high end...plus you could get a flush, 2 pair, or trips.


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But it only makes one flush, so it should be played more conservatively than J4o.

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definately. if you make a straight flush with J4o it will be more disguised if there are four diamonds on the board. then when someone flips over the ace you can flip over your four and say "straight flush bitch! ship it!"
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Old 12-13-2005, 04:06 PM
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Default Re: Jd 4d preflop

I raise it.

J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] is a good heads up hand.

It also dominates such hands as J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], or 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].

Hope that helps.
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Old 12-13-2005, 05:24 PM
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I can't believe you guys didn't mention quads. That's why I play it.
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Old 12-13-2005, 06:51 PM
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I can't believe you guys didn't mention quads. That's why I play it.

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LMAO
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