About AKo.

guitarhero14 · #1 03-07-2005, 11:40 PM

I am sure this has been addressed before, but I cant seem to find it using the search. Here is my question.

If you have AKo and raise, and the flop misses you, say its 952r. Do you bet out? AKo is losing for me right now, I dont know if I should bet if the flop misses me.

I know this may be too generalized, but do you understand what I mean?

Dead · #2 03-07-2005, 11:47 PM

Yes I do understand, but it's very situation dependent.

Are you in EP or on the button?

Are you playing tight-passives or loose-aggressives?

How many flop opponents do you have? I'm inclined to bet a rags flop against 2 opponents from EP, but not against 4 or 5.

guitarhero14 · #3 03-07-2005, 11:51 PM

I knew this was too generalized.

Well first off I play .05/.1 so the tables are pretty loosepassive and I am talking about EP. Flop opponents are around 3-5.

From your response I would say check, sadly I am pretty sure that is one of my leaks. I have a habit of betting even if I dont hit.

Dead · #4 03-07-2005, 11:59 PM

it's ok sometimes, but dont feel that you must bet a flop like this.

xCEO · #5 03-08-2005, 05:42 AM

Bet in late position, you will get a free card on the loose passive tables

AKQJ10 · #6 03-08-2005, 11:37 AM

I second what xCEO says. If you have really observant opponents they might reraise the flop or bet the turn into you once they pick up on it, but no one at .05/.10 is that observant. The free card play is good as gold.

tripdad · #7 03-08-2005, 10:27 PM

i think when first starting out if i were you, i'd refrain from auto-betting AK when you miss the flop. i think it takes some experience to know when/how to bet the hand. my opinion is that you should only semi-bluff with a flush draw and with an open ended straight draw where you are drawing to the high end of th straight(i.e. when you have J-Q, and the board shows a 9 and 10), and then only when there is a rainbow board.

i think in general, conservative play will serve you better when starting out. you'll learn in due time when it is right to ramp up your aggression.

cheers!

pzhon · #8 03-08-2005, 10:56 PM

Raising preflop with other hands does not mean you need to bet the flop, but I think it is right by a lot to bet with AK on almost every flop if there was no reraise preflop. I'd make an exception in early position on a monotone flop where I don't have a flush draw and there are multiple opponents, and I'd make an exception to slow-play in some cases.

Against few opponents, AK is a made hand. Your opponents might have missed, and they might be drawing to 3 outs. Remember all of those times your opponents chased with A4 unimproved when you had KK? They are chasing with it again, but an ace will not help them, and you will often win with AK unimproved.

Against many opponents, you want to push out weak made hands like bottom pair or unimproved low pairs, and your overcard draw can almost be bet for value on the flop.

If I recall correctly, simulations say it is right by a huge amount to bet out with AK from the small blind after you raise preflop and miss the flop. This is counterintuitive to many people.