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Old 11-26-2003, 04:48 PM
elwoodblues elwoodblues is offline
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so u dont think gays are more promiscuous than heteros ?

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Nope. Some are probably really promiscuous, but the majority aren't. If your only experience with gay men is seeing/hearing about what happens at a gay bar/club, I suggest you go hang out at a night club that is frequented by young straight folks and make a fair comparison.

Every single gay person that I know (I know quite a few...I attended an all male college, have many close friends who are gay, and attend Gay cultural events frequently...e.g. the Twin Cities Gay Men's Chorus) is either single and doesn't date anyone, is a serial monogomist (i.e. someone who is always in a relationship - dating someone - but does so for an extended period of time), or is in a long-term monogomous relationship.

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Old 11-26-2003, 04:50 PM
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'Nope. Some are probably really promiscuous, but the majority aren't.'

how do u explain aids decimating homo population then? heteros have anal sex too although i suppose not at rates of gays.

you think god is striking them down or something?
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Old 11-26-2003, 04:51 PM
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Nope. Some are probably really promiscuous, but the majority aren't. If your only experience with gay men is seeing/hearing about what happens at a gay bar/club, I suggest you go hang out at a night club that is frequented by young straight folks and make a fair comparison.

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Hey we actually agree on something.
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Old 11-26-2003, 04:57 PM
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That usually means it's time for you to re-evaluate your position.
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Old 11-26-2003, 04:59 PM
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"The "invisible hand" of evolution will always ensure that the vast majority of human beings will be heterosexual."

-This seems inconsistent with your assertion that sexuality is environmentally determined.
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Old 11-26-2003, 05:10 PM
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How do you explain AIDS decimating the (mostly heterosexual) population of Africa? Does God hate Africans? Are Africans more promiscuous?

Although promiscuity is certainly a risk factor for AIDS, the notion that only the promiscuous (or only gay men) are at risk is laughable. AIDS has a very long incubation period. A serially monagamous population can easilty sustain an epidemic. We are seeing the first stage of the epidemic here. The disease has been in Africa much longer. Whether we will start seeing it spread into the heterosexual population in America remains to be seen. There is some epidemiological evidence that male circmcision reduces the risk of female to male heterosexual transmission, which appears to be the weak link in heterosexual transmission. Also, the presence of other STD's in a male increases his risk of catching the disease from a woman, which may account for the higher rate of heterosexual AIDS in the third world, where such diseases are not as well controlled as here.
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Old 11-26-2003, 05:17 PM
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Different types of sex carry different risks of AIDS. This has nothing to do with sexuality, although if you look at it entirely illogically, you might conclude such.

Perhaps if the powers that be weren't so foolish, AIDS could have been a lesser problem. At least, if you believe the melodrama of And the Band Played On.

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Old 11-26-2003, 05:17 PM
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'Although promiscuity is certainly a risk factor for AIDS, the notion that ...only gay men ... are at risk is laughable.'

yeah ok. sure.

gays and iv drug users are not at a higher risk than general population. if you really know gay people you would know better than that.

btw, why do u assume afrikans are not promiscuous? other cultures have differents mores about these things. look at south africa.
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Old 11-26-2003, 05:22 PM
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'Different types of sex carry different risks of AIDS. This has nothing to do with sexuality, although if you look at it entirely illogically, you might conclude such.'

how is it illogical?

if groups A is statistically more promiscous and engage in 'higher risk' sex than group B,

then

what is wrong with recognizing that (at least at one point in time) , these groups are also divided along homo/hetero lines?
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Old 11-26-2003, 05:33 PM
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So that we can be entertained.
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