50/100 Boat??

morgant · #1 10-07-2005, 12:13 AM

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $100 BB (4 handed) converter

SB ($8244)
BB ($14156.50)
UTG ($8956.50)
Hero ($7792)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls $100, Hero raises to $450, 1 fold, BB calls $350, UTG folds.

Flop: ($1050) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1050, BB calls $1050.

Turn: ($3150) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($3150) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $12656.5 (All-In)

Allinlife · #2 10-07-2005, 12:15 AM

no reads playing 50/100nl 4 handed?

flawless_victory · #3 10-07-2005, 12:18 AM

if this hand is against mahatma, everyone is instacalling here. insta. ive never played w/ him, but ive seen plenty via 2+2 to say folding here is ridiculous...
against most you have a tough decision, but still looks like a call.

morgant · #4 10-07-2005, 12:19 AM

they play good [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

bb is relatively tight will take a stab every now and again with mid range hands, i have only played 50 or so hands with him, i respect his bets, seems he is beggin for the call, but is he?

Allinlife · #5 10-07-2005, 12:22 AM

I think villan could very well do this with 77~TT, or any 2 for that matter. after reading that evanski thread and what the 50/100 players are capable of, I think it's a call.

Big_Jim · #6 10-07-2005, 12:26 AM

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after reading that evanski thread and what the 50/100 players are capable of, I think it's a call.

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I really don't like this reasoning.... do we assume that most 50/100 players are capable of an overbet bluff here and/or think they will get called by a worse boat than JJ without reason to do so? Sounds like a really dangerous assumption.

Big pairs are fairly likely holdings for Hero, from villians perspective.

morgant · #7 10-07-2005, 12:30 AM

yah, evanski is not the barometer for the game.........

Big_Jim · #8 10-07-2005, 12:34 AM

This line looks a lot like quads.... as I'm sure you know.

I would never make this call without a good read on the opponent.

#9 10-07-2005, 12:42 AM

I think you can find a fold here. I think villain has put you on a high pocket pair here but he's still pushing the river b/c he knows he has you beat. If he has a Q, the river was the perfect card to get a call out of you. Without a great read, I would fold.

Ulysses · #10 10-07-2005, 12:48 AM

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Big pairs are fairly likely holdings for Hero, from villians perspective.

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What on earth would make you say that?