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Old 09-16-2004, 09:40 AM
ResidentParanoid ResidentParanoid is offline
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Default Re: 15/30 TT against a TAG

TAG player that cold-calls 2 pre-flop and 3-bets the flop? And then raises again on the turn? Screams big pair to me (although I'm not sure why he cold-called pre-flop, maybe a variation?). I'm done with this hand. I don't think he's on a flush draw since he'd be really cutting down the field with that flop 3-bet.
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Old 09-16-2004, 09:48 AM
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Default Re: 15/30 TT against a TAG

I agree with the others that he most likely holds AcJc or KcQc.

That said, can you please explain to me what you're hoping to accomplish with the flop cap? Anyone else think that a better line is to call the three-bet and bet out on the turn if anything other than an ace a four or a club falls?
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Old 09-16-2004, 09:50 AM
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Default Re: 15/30 TT against a TAG

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AJ or AQ of clubs are good possibilities. 44 or 55 are also fairly likely

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well put choppy.

I think AJ and KQ clubs is certainly possible, but I think 44, 55, 33, and 22 are also very valid holdings. I would overcall a raise even with 22 in his spot I think pre-flop. poor play?
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Old 09-16-2004, 10:20 AM
ResidentParanoid ResidentParanoid is offline
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Forget the TAG description if he's calling 2 cold with small pairs.
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Old 09-16-2004, 10:42 AM
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Default Re: 15/30 TT against a TAG

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That said, can you please explain to me what you're hoping to accomplish with the flop cap? Anyone else think that a better line is to call the three-bet and bet out on the turn if anything other than an ace a four or a club falls?

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If he puts him on overcards/clubs then he's jamming it with the best hand, forcing a draw to pay maximum value.
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Old 09-16-2004, 10:50 AM
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Default Re: 15/30 TT against a TAG

why?

I consider myself TAG and i think calling 2 hear with 22 isnt a terrible play, but wnat to know if it is so I can stop doing it.
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Old 09-16-2004, 11:17 AM
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Default Re: 15/30 TT against a TAG

I agree with the others that he most likely holds AcJc or KcQc

If he cold calls a good early player's open raise with either of these hands, he's not a TAG, he's just another Party clown.
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Old 09-16-2004, 11:36 AM
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Default Re: 15/30 TT against a TAG

ed miller advocates cold-calling with these hands, unless i mis-interpret which is entirely possible, why is that a bad play?
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Old 09-16-2004, 11:37 AM
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Default Re: 15/30 TT against a TAG

If you label players based on one hand then you are mislabeling alot of players. Ever hear of mixing it up?

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Old 09-16-2004, 12:03 PM
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Default Re: 15/30 TT against a TAG

My VP$IP is around 17-18% and I regularly cold call 2 in multiway pots with small pairs.
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