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Old 12-19-2005, 10:18 PM
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Party Poker 1/2. 9 handed.

2nd hand at the table, no reads.

PREFLOP: Hero has Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] in the SB.
UTG limps, UTG+1 limps, 5 folds, Hero completes, BB checks.

FLOP: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players, 4 SBs)
<font color="red"> Hero bets</font>, BB calls, 2 folds.

TURN: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 3 BBs)
<font color="red"> Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

RIVER: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 4.5 BBs)
<font color="red"> Hero bets, BB raises</font>...
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Old 12-19-2005, 10:22 PM
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Default Re: To raise or not to raise?

This is a really easy 3-bet.
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Old 12-19-2005, 10:23 PM
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im wish thant
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Old 12-19-2005, 10:31 PM
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yuppers

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Old 12-19-2005, 10:52 PM
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Default Re: To raise or not to raise?

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This is a really easy 3-bet.

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OK, everyone seems to agree. My concern was what was he calling the flop with that running Kings improved enough to raise the river? If it were a straight he already hit it on the turn, the same is true of a smaller flush.
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Old 12-19-2005, 11:38 PM
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Default Re: To raise or not to raise?

brock - a lot of fishies will just call the turn here with a low flush or straight to raise you on the river. they could also do thiw with kings up, but they could also do it with a random king hand that now has trips.

there are just more hands that you beat. if i had KT in your spot, i would just call - that's about as close a hand i can get that i would play this way and just call the river. actually i'm probably just calling with QTo as well.
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Old 12-20-2005, 01:28 AM
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grunch:

Hard to imagine he's bluffing against a three flush board and a player showing strength all the way. If he had K's Up on the turn, calling your bet instead of raising only makes sense if he's put you on a flush. That said, he may think raising with the paired board might scare you out of a small pot. I'd call. If he's bluffing he'll fold to your reraise, gaining you nothing, but if he has the boat you loose an extra big bet.
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Old 12-20-2005, 01:45 AM
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i put him on 22.

i still 3bet the river.
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Old 12-20-2005, 01:47 AM
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grunch:

Hard to imagine he's bluffing against a three flush board and a player showing strength all the way. If he had K's Up on the turn, calling your bet instead of raising only makes sense if he's put you on a flush. That said, he may think raising with the paired board might scare you out of a small pot. I'd call. If he's bluffing he'll fold to your reraise, gaining you nothing, but if he has the boat you loose an extra big bet.

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he is most likely raising a very good hand, but a second best one that we still beat. he almost certainly isnt bluffing, but it doesnt really matter to us cause we is the skillz
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Old 12-20-2005, 03:50 AM
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i put him on 22.

i still 3bet the river.

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Way to follow your reads...

For the hand. I 3-bet since alot of time I will see a lonely K here or a straight.
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