30/60 88 confused

[piggity]

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To all of you who are saying fold preflop, no, no, and no. For as long as I've been on the mid-high forums, it's always been standard to open-raise 77+ from UTG.

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I wonder how much I am giving up by not playing these hands from EP? Any links to old threads would be appreciated. While we're at it, what should I do with KQo UTG?

he played the hand as a six outer and thought he had implied odds to call

[DeeJ]

8 handed the pf raise has to be good.

meh I hate the snowmen too even when only one overcard falls. Here you have 3 and a coordinated board. I think I fold the flop if he's anything under 60% VPIP here, because it should look scary to him - if he has a Ten, the 8 makes you a big loser, and if a Ten falls, and he has the King, you aren't gonna fold the idiot end of the straight, are you...? There's a good chance you're behind anyway - yuck -fold the flop and move on.

[Mempho]

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If you're going to fold on this turn why are you calling the flop?

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[Mempho]

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Fold preflop.


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How about no?

[Mempho]

I would probably fold the flop. If I ended up "accidentally" calling the flop, I would raise a "safe" turn card like this. Calling and folding is just bad. Giving him the rope doesn't feel right in this spot either.