common situation

[TStoneMBD]

im going to be calling this flop with just about any 2 since its such a harmless board and his hand range is so large. i expect him to follow through on the turn just about every time sept maybe for those times he has Ax and wants to check turn call river bet.

the thing is however, if his ace is strong he should be betting the turn for value and often should be following through on the river for value. if he has a weak ace he shouldnt be paying off to a checkraise flop bet turn line anyway.

[mmcd]

This is my standard line in this situation.

[bone77]

does anyone c/c flop then lead the turn on any non ace or king? i love this line and think you get looked up a great percentage of the time. if raised then call down.

-tony

[luckyharr]

Compared to a flop check/raise, your line gets more money in, and more of it goes in when your equity is much better against his range. Even if he can get away from the no pair hands on the turn, you still net more compared to the check-raise/bet line if his plan is to fold overs.

Here's a thought and I'm not sure if it warrants discussion. If you check-raise the flop and lead the turn, he's getting 6.75-1 to call (ignoring rake.) If he has 6 outs, he should call since his odds of winning are 6.66-1. It's real thin and if he discounts at all he's done. If you call the flop and check-raise the turn, he's getting 7.75-1 to call. Now, it's an easy call if he thinks his 6 outs are good, and a lot closer if he discounts 1 out. By FTP, he should see a river in both situations (ignoring the FTP errors he already may have made,) but the second instance is much easier, and the first instance may be incorrect when rake is considered. This is important since your line may induce a correct turn call and lose the whole pot some of the time.

And after saying all that, I like your line and use it a lot against players who have been floating on me liberally and are unlikely to take free cards.

[oreogod]

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Why is this line superior to just check-raising the flop?

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Because hes prolly aggressive enough he's almost always betting any turn.

[TStoneMBD]

i posted this hand mainly because he checked behind on the turn i was mad. the river paired tens and i bet and he folded.

like wtf? i cant see there being a hand he could have that was played correctly here unless he knew that i wouldnt bluff this river which he couldnt imo. im peeling this flop with almost any hand.

give my BB you jerk!