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Old 08-09-2005, 11:24 PM
shejk shejk is offline
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Default FT, survive or fight?

Payout is 738 to 7th out, 984 to 6th, and 5400 to 1st.


NL Texas Hold'em Level:19 Blinds (5000/10000)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 1: xurock ( $100584 )
Seat 2: allegu ( $144068 )
Seat 3: morsi123 ( $7497 )
Seat 5: 007 ( $295799 )
Seat 6: Ghusten ( $9728 )
Seat 8: sampa80 ( $194624 )
Seat 10: jakeb7555 ( $67700 )

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to Ghusten [ 5h 2h ]
jakeb7555 folds.
xurock folds.
allegu folds.
morsi123 is all-In [7497]
007 folds.
Ghusten...?

I think this is a call. What do you say?
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Old 08-09-2005, 11:49 PM
bmxreed36 bmxreed36 is offline
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Default Re: FT, survive or fight?

Yep
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Old 08-09-2005, 11:53 PM
Exitonly Exitonly is offline
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Default Re: FT, survive or fight?

Yea i call, gonna have to sooner or later, now's a good time because if the BB ends up winning the hand, you finish above that guy anyway. And you can quadruple up. If the other short stack hadn't moved in i'd fold though.
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Old 08-10-2005, 12:00 AM
DemonDeac DemonDeac is offline
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Default Re: FT, survive or fight?

are u in the small blind? i cant tell?
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Old 08-10-2005, 12:13 AM
SossMan SossMan is offline
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Default Re: FT, survive or fight?

fold. the sb should call w/ any two and the bb will probably check it down with him (not saying that this is the proper play, but it frequently happens). You are on the button and will there are no antes and will have a few hands to pick up something servicable in EP where someone hopefully will isolate so that you have the blinds in the pot as overlay and are heads up. I think that is much better than what is likely 4 handed w/ 5 high.
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Old 08-10-2005, 06:21 AM
nath nath is offline
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Default Re: FT, survive or fight?

I think he is the small blind.

Even at the final table, this still begs the question of what happened that you blinded off half your stack the previous hand.
Next time move sooner, but hell, you might as well call now. You're not finishing higher than 6th unless you get some more chips, and if BB wins the hand you still get 6th. Might as well try to triple up, even with garbage.
And if somehow you do win this hand I'd push pretty much everything I was first in on until I had a real stack in front of me.
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Old 08-10-2005, 08:43 AM
shejk shejk is offline
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Default Re: FT, survive or fight?

Yes I am the small blind. And the previous hand the guy one to my right went out so I didn't have to pay the big blind.

My thinking was that even with a really tight range for the other short stack, tripling up would take me back into the race. I'm really not a math guy, but running a tightish range against my holding in pokerstove, I get like 55% for the other shortstack, 19% for me and 26% for the random hand on the bb. So 19% of the time I triple up, 26% both me and shortie go out, with me ahead of him, and the other 55% when he wins, I still survive like a bit less than half since I beat the bb in the sidepot.

So I get the real question gets down to whether it's worth going out now before anyone else for an about equal chance to triple up.

I'm guessing icm calculations would be faulty since the blinds are so big compared to the small stacks, but I couldn't do them anyways.
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Old 08-10-2005, 08:50 AM
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Default Re: FT, survive or fight?

What was the outcome?
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Old 08-10-2005, 10:40 AM
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Default Re: FT, survive or fight?

The other shortstack took the main pot with AK, and bb took the sidepot with 57.

That didn't matter nearly so much as me losing two hands in a row to go from 130k to 5k 10 hands earlier... [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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