Clowned vowels: Fancy Play Syndrome?

Kyo Souma II · #1 06-23-2005, 05:42 AM

Pretty high PFR on this table over the past few minutes.. Button seems Mloose.

The Preflop LRR is intended to get the big stack in for this exact play, but is it too unlikely of a scenario to bother getting that tricky? Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.5 BB (6 max, 5 handed) converter

SB ($121.55)
BB ($12.65)
Hero ($48.25)
MP ($85.43)
Button ($96.65)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero calls $0.50, 1 fold, Button calls $0.50, SB completes, BB raises to $3, Hero raises to $5.5, Button calls $5, SB folds, BB calls $2.50.

Flop: ($17) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB bets $7.15 (All-In), Hero calls $7.15, Button raises to $91.15 (All-In), Hero calls $35.60 (All-In).

Turn: ($158.05) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players, 3 all-in)

River: ($158.05) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players, 3 all-in)

Final Pot: $158.05

gulebjorn · #2 06-23-2005, 05:56 AM

I tried that limp-reraise stuff too once. Everyone called and I saw an 8-handed, A-high flop with KK in the hole. Great.

So you limp-reraise and he now knows you are holding aces or kings. Flop comes K-high, one player goes all-in, he pushes and you... call? It hurts, but I'm laying this down, unless I have a very solid read on this guy that says he overplays top pair or bluffs on the flop like this.

-Skeme- · #3 06-23-2005, 06:02 AM

Raise more.

jkkkk · #4 06-23-2005, 06:05 AM

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Raise more.

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fuzzbox · #5 06-23-2005, 06:28 AM

What does MLoose mean ?
Limp minreraise is pretty clearly Aces or Kings. This is especially true when the pf raiser has only 12.65 in his stack. If you had a hand like JJ or maybe AK then you are much more likely to make it 13 to play to isolate the small dude.

Unless button is a complete muppet - he should be able to beat one pair on the flop.

However - if he *is* a complete muppet - then by all means get your chips in.

fuzzbox · #6 06-23-2005, 06:29 AM

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I tried that limp-reraise stuff too once. Everyone called and I saw an 8-handed, A-high flop with KK in the hole. Great.

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Limping to see an A-high flop 8-handed is better than raising and seeing an A-high flop 3-handed :-)

Kyo Souma II · #7 06-23-2005, 06:45 AM

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What does MLoose mean ?
Limp minreraise is pretty clearly Aces or Kings. This is especially true when the pf raiser has only 12.65 in his stack. If you had a hand like JJ or maybe AK then you are much more likely to make it 13 to play to isolate the small dude.

Unless button is a complete muppet - he should be able to beat one pair on the flop.

However - if he *is* a complete muppet - then by all means get your chips in.

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For some reason, the button seemed to be cycling in and out of hyperaggression. I'm just wondering if it's worth the risk to let him in on a flop where i will be clowning a stop and go 100% of the time, esp when my stupid play is making it likely he'll fold. Maybe I just 'had a read.'

ESP is a jellyroll!

Board: [ 3h Kc Td Ts 4d ]

SB $12.65 [ Qc Kd ] [ two pairs, kings and tens -- Kd,Kc,Qc,Td,Ts ]

Hero balance $107.65, bet $48.25, collected $107.65, net +$59.4 [ Ac As ] [ two pairs, aces and tens -- Ac,As,Kc,Td,Ts ]

Button $48.4, bet $96.65, collected $48.4, lost -$48.25 [ Jc Qs ] [ a pair of tens -- Kc,Qs,Jc,Td,Ts ]