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Old 09-17-2005, 05:51 PM
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Hi,

My first post here so I will do a quick intro. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I am a student and have played around 20k hands at 0.5/1 and 1/2. I am a little loser but bonuses make me a tiny winner. Now over to the hand:

MP3 is 40VP$IP.

Party Poker 1.00/2.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(10 handed)</font> link

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, MP3 calls.

Flop: (7.00 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: (10.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12.50 BB.
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Old 09-17-2005, 05:54 PM
NateDog NateDog is offline
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Default Re: 1/2 full ring

Welcome. What's your question? Should you be raising the flop? Depends on your read of SB. Should you call the river? Yes.
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Old 09-17-2005, 05:58 PM
Redd Redd is offline
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I wouldn't raise the flop here unless I was pretty sure I could get a free card. Then I'd take the free card against two people. The way it played out I also call the river raise.
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Old 09-17-2005, 06:03 PM
Russ McGinley Russ McGinley is offline
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I think you overplayed this hand. What is betting the turn going to accomplish? You need to check the turn and try and hit what is something around a 7-outer (3 nut queens, 1 probable nut queen, 6 overcards that are probably 50/50 to giving you the best hand). River call is pretty easy.
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Old 09-17-2005, 06:11 PM
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not sure what the question is here.....seems pretty basic to me, I think I'd have played it the same way. How did it turn out? MP3's check raise on the turn seems odd to me.
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Old 09-17-2005, 06:17 PM
Vote4Pedro Vote4Pedro is offline
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Raising the flop is fine, but you gotta check behind on the turn and take the free card. And I'm not folding the river
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Old 09-17-2005, 06:18 PM
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maybe I'm missing something, but the flop raise is very valid, not only to gain a free card, but for value: you have two overcards, a gutshot nut straight draw, and a backdoor flush draw. I can't fault you for that OR for the turn bet, because with this board, he's easily on a draw and you could still be ahead.
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Old 09-17-2005, 06:21 PM
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I think you're giving too much credit to a player that has done nothing up till this point but call bets. The chance of taking the pot right there plus having up to 7 outs to win plus maybe winning UI with a blank river, all of these can't make betting a terrible play. Yes, if betting won't improve your chances to win you take the free card, but here I think that chance is substantial. Of course, he won't fold to a single bet with a flush or open-ender draw, but you are still ahead at that point.
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Old 09-17-2005, 06:31 PM
Vote4Pedro Vote4Pedro is offline
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Maybe if it was HU, and you could take a free showdown. The problem is that youre up against multiple opponents and you hold A-high. Checking the turn is the play
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Old 09-17-2005, 07:02 PM
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grunch. I think I like the flop raise for a free card, but then why bet the turn? You have nothing but overs and a gutshot. Take the card man.
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