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[AJo Go All In]

9 handed 25/50

UTG+1 opens for $175. fold, call, fold fold fold fold and i call in the BB with Th Td.

flop is Kh 5h 4h. checked around

turn Kh 5h 4h 6c. i bet $300. UTG+1 raises to $600. fold, i call.

river Kh 5h 4h 6c 9h. i check. UTG+1 bets $700?

have never seen UTG+1 before. had not been at the table very long.

[The_Bends]

Call preflop is fine.

I hate the flop, so many things are beating you especaiily with two others in the hand and a raise from UTG+1. I think your check was correct, personally I'm letting this go unless something dramatic makes me think otherwise.

On the turn I still hate my hand. I'd check again. I honestly don't think this is a good situation to make a play. Raising isn't a bad play but personally I'd wait for another spot. I'f I had bet I'd call the reraise hoping to make a play on an non heart flop.

When the river comes its game over, check/fold is the correct play.

[bugstud]

I think the A9s hand was more interesting.

I can't think of too many hands besides a flopped nut flush that play it this way that beat you. I doubt JJh or QQh or AAh play the flop or turn in this manner, or AxKh or the other big unpaired one heart hands. So I'm all for picking off a bluff here.

EDIT - hand 3186 also looked interesting.

[AJo Go All In]

A9s hand?

[AZK]

I think it's easy to find a fold here without any read or history of the player.

[nate1729]

I don't think you can fold this river. If the range of hands you fold to a 1/3-pot bet here includes the ten of hearts, it seems that he has a very profitable play against many hands you could be holding. It sure looks like a big heart, but it doesn't have to be one, and I don't think you're giving him too much on the value-betting side of the coin by calling here. (Certainly his range of hands includes lots of non-spade-containing kings, pairs, and total bluffs. The turn raise makes some of these less probable, but letting him bluff you off a big set of hands that beat these cheaply seems extremely exploitable.)

[thabadguy]

Easy fold in my opinion. Could be AhAx Ahkx , or maybe even QhQx .JhJx unlikely

[aggie]

you're getting almost 4-1 on a call here. Close your eyes and toss your chips in!

[PokerGodess]

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I don't think you can fold this river. If the range of hands you fold to a 1/3-pot bet here includes the ten of hearts, it seems that he has a very profitable play against many hands you could be holding. It sure looks like a big heart, but it doesn't have to be one, and I don't think you're giving him too much on the value-betting side of the coin by calling here. (Certainly his range of hands includes lots of non-spade-containing kings, pairs, and total bluffs. The turn raise makes some of these less probable, but letting him bluff you off a big set of hands that beat these cheaply seems extremely exploitable.)

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Nate,
It amazes me how many 2plus2ers dont understand this simple concept. Game theory makes this a call every time.

[PokerGodess]

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Easy fold in my opinion. Could be AhAx Ahkx , or maybe even QhQx .JhJx unlikely

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Yea, you pretty much summed up the entire range of hands that the villain might have here...