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Old 10-25-2005, 08:49 AM
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I know a number of "estrogen loaded" personages who'd take offense at the first part of your ranting. Not only did you omit mentioning the gun-totin', firearm lovin', gentler gender, you are anti-something-they-find-quite-wonderful.

"Annual registraion fee?" WTF?

As to your forthwithin' - Your state has two senators. Are they anti-gun? Unless they are, your whiny, wimpy plea to "stop the madness that 'r firearms" will be tucked away in the special file they have for such nonsense. The other 98, except those few who feel as you and good ole "If-it-saves-just-one-child Chuck Schumer" do, well, they also have files for nonsense.

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Old 10-25-2005, 09:13 AM
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Actually I am registered to vote in Massachusetts. Home state of your favorite senator(s). [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
I have residences in both MA and NY- but presently live in Asia.

Zeno's earnest statement to make firearm training MANDATORY at Columbine's school district gave me the brilliant insight of firearm training to be MANDATORY for those buying it and then getting the pieces registered - annually is a good period. Not too much and not too little. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

I like the idea -- a lot!
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Old 10-25-2005, 09:15 AM
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Our (the U.S.) murder rate is high not because of gun ownership but because of cultural reasons.

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Michael Moore's Bowling For Columbine made exactly the same point; especailly when it compared statistics between America and Canada.
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Old 10-25-2005, 10:13 AM
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Default Re: Re Guns: One for the good guys

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our(the u.s.) murder rate is high not because of gun ownership but because of cultural reasons. its just that those that chose to own guns and know how to use them are less likely to be one of those murdered.


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Agreed. It is the failure of the "War on Poverty" and the abismal public education of most inner cities. In addition to the fact that most of these "Murder Rates" include suicide like benfranklin says. When we start giving lower income individuals hope and a future instead of handouts and repression, we will see the murder rate fall. Lower income people do not see a future where they are and then they idolize the drug dealers, the pimps, and the gang members because then they fell empowered. Heck, if I grew up in the inner city without a real hope or knowledge how to get out, you bet I would be tempted by the criminal lifestyle. Anybody who says otherwise is kidding themselves.

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unfortunately friends and family have a higher chance as well of being murdewred as well as a higher chance of being saved.
you live your life and take your chances in the situation you chose to put yourself in.

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True. But they have a hundredfold less chance than if they have a swimming pool on the premises. We all choose what we are comfortable with on safety issues.

-Gryph
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Old 10-25-2005, 01:21 PM
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Default Re: Hammer. Nail. Ray.

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Our (the U.S.) murder rate is high not because of gun ownership but because of cultural reasons.

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Michael Moore's Bowling For Columbine made exactly the same point; especailly when it compared statistics between America and Canada.

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If that was his point, he didn't make it as far as I'm concerned. Admittedly, I watched the movie starting out biased, and looking for flaws in his reasoning. I couldn't find flaws because I couldn't find reasoning. The major theme seemed to be that Canada is a socialist utopia and the USA is a hell-hole of greed merchants.

I was amused by Moore trying to ambush an old man in the early stages of Alzheimers (Heston) in a battle of wits and fighting him to a draw. I felt sorry for both of them.
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