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Old 05-12-2005, 12:27 AM
btspider btspider is offline
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Default JTo on the button 6max

I think this one has several interesting streets.

MP is about 70/14 PF. I haven't had great folding equity postflop against him thus far. He hasn't been too tricky postflop, tho the sample has been small this session. The other player involved is typical too loose too passive.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, Hero calls, SB completes, BB checks.

anyone fold?

Flop: (4 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB folds, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, MP calls.

wait until turn situation? does my opponent bet most turn cards?

Turn: (5 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB folds, MP calls.

scare card..

River: (7 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Do I call a bet?
Do I bet if checked to? .. response to a check-raise?
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Old 05-12-2005, 12:30 AM
aK13 aK13 is offline
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Default Re: JTo on the button 6max

Check behind if he checks. I don't know what I'd do if bet into...I'm tempted to say call, but I don't think we're good 1 in 8 times here...
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Old 05-12-2005, 12:39 AM
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Default Re: JTo on the button 6max

hey spider,

my $.02, i play the flop &amp; turn exactly the same. personally, i like the wait-for-the-turn play for 2pair+ on safe turn cards.

if a free showdown is offered, i'd probably take it.

worse hands won't necessarily call (2x, Tx)
some better hands will call (QT, KT)
6x would try for a trap.
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Old 05-12-2005, 12:49 AM
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Default Re: JTo on the button 6max

Easy river bet, I dunno what to do with a CR that's a read-based thing. If he bets I would call.

Why are you playing 1/2 you 5/10 monster?

-DeathDonkey
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Old 05-12-2005, 12:56 AM
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Default Re: JTo on the button 6max

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I think this one has several interesting streets.

MP is about 70/14 PF. I haven't had great folding equity postflop against him thus far. He hasn't been too tricky postflop, tho the sample has been small this session. The other player involved is typical too loose too passive.

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, Hero calls, SB completes, BB checks.

anyone fold?

Flop: (4 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB folds, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, MP calls.

wait until turn situation? does my opponent bet most turn cards?

Turn: (5 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB folds, MP calls.

scare card..

River: (7 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Do I call a bet?
Do I bet if checked to? .. response to a check-raise?

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FYP [img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img]
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Old 05-12-2005, 01:07 AM
btspider btspider is offline
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Default Re: JTo on the button 6max

there's a bonus to clear you bonus whoring pansies scared about losing your bonus whore accounts.

almost finished tho, then back to the 5/10 swampland, but i see the light ahead.
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Old 05-12-2005, 01:34 AM
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Default Re: JTo on the button 6max

Preflop: I limp.

Flop: Raise. Your not getting bet into often enough, and your hand is not nearly strong enough to slowplay 3 handed. Plus raising helps to define your hand on the cheaper street.

Turn: Standard.

River: Bet this. Easy fold to a raise.

Edit: I call a river bet too.
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Old 05-12-2005, 01:38 AM
SteveL91 SteveL91 is offline
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Default Re: JTo on the button 6max

I think I'd be calling a bet or betting if checked to. If he's picking now to get tricky, then so be it.

Also, I'd probably raise pre-flop if I'm going to play. In general, I hate limping unless there's already been two or more limpers. I'm not quite as averse to doing so on the button, but any other position and it's usually a raise or fold situation for me.
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Old 05-12-2005, 02:11 AM
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Default Re: JTo on the button 6max

Hey Spidey.

I don't hate the limp necessarily, (because you're on the button; if you were in the cut-off seat it would probably be a different story), but I also wouldn't hate raising.

I also think the river needs to be bet or called.

If this guy plays 70% of his hands I'm not checking behind fearing he has an Ace; also, if he keeps his aggression up post-flop there's a good chance he would have bet the flop with middle pair, or check-raised you on the turn with an Ace.

If he's this type of player (aggressive), I would bet/call the river. Many worse hands will call, and probably a few even worser ones will check-raise. If you're confident in your "non-tricky" read, I think I could find a fold though. It's tough to tell without knowing how aggressive he is.
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Old 05-12-2005, 02:19 AM
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Default Re: JTo on the button 6max

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MP is about 70/14 PF

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i will find a raise here 80% of the time preflop

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wait until turn situation? does my opponent bet most turn cards?

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no i like the raise here.

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scare card..

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more scary for the villain, i promise.

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Do I call a bet?

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yes

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Do I bet if checked to?

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yes

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response to a check-raise?

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He hasn't been too tricky postflop, tho the sample has been small this session

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makes me torn, but i am a big payoff station so i usually call down.
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