(109) Bubble Fun with Raptor

[Scuba Chuck]

Man, I'm not sure if I'm weak tight or not, but I'm in the minority on both of these hands.

Had to pull out Eastbay's tool to see what this means.

This is only +$EV against a maniac pusher, otherwise, the tighter the range, the more -$EV it becomes. And we're not talking about small amounts.

Furthermore, if villain really is a maniac, the +$EV amount is very miniscule.

[Scuba Chuck]

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Further validation for my ongoing decision not to incorporate ICM or SNGPT into my game in a big way.


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This may be one of the more foolish comments I've seen you make. I don't know where ICM couldn't be more accurate than in places like this. Essentially folding here gives you an expected value of about $10-33 every time. But if villain is really a maniac, then you're only gaining only $1.75.

I thought good poker players looked for ways to maximize their edges?

[freemoney]

there are factors such as big stacks trying to prolong bubble or bigger stacks more likely to attack you and give the smaller stack a walk if he folds here that are pretty impossible to calculate here.

[pooh74]

Wish I had some analysis, but Im sure its all here somewhere...I'd call both of these hands. In gametime, given a few seconds expecially. I've now thought about both hands for 10 minutes....and I would still say call.

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Man, I'm not sure if I'm weak tight or not, but I'm in the minority on both of these hands.

Had to pull out Eastbay's tool to see what this means.

This is only +$EV against a maniac pusher, otherwise, the tighter the range, the more -$EV it becomes. And we're not talking about small amounts.

Furthermore, if villain really is a maniac, the +$EV amount is very miniscule.

[/ QUOTE ]SNGPT's maniac range is only 22%-23% of hands. It's easy to imagine the pusher here has a wider range than that.

"Maniac" doesn't really mean "crazy" (at least not in all cases), just a bit wider than "loose".

[Scuba Chuck]

SNGPT's maniac range is only 22%-23% of hands. It's easy to imagine the pusher here has a wider range than that.

"Maniac" doesn't really mean "crazy" (at least not in all cases), just a bit wider than "loose".

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You should give Eastbay more credit. Anyway, for your viewing pleasure, I adjusted manaic to any two cards.

Using Eastbays' default manaic, it's +0.2%
Using any two cards, it's +0.6%

Thanks for making your point that much stronger.

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Unless the pusher is a complete maniac this is a fold.

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What difference does it make? You're likely worse off against a maniac than a moderately tight player. Unless this guy has shown he only pushes with pocket pairs, I'd rather call against somebody pushing with an ace or any two broadway cards, as I'm likely to have him dominated. I voted fold BTW.

[lacky]

what has me worried is i'm in the majority. That never happens. I'm not kidding either. For me to be in the majority in this poll represents a major shift in this groups thinking. I like being contrarian. If this continues I'm gonna end up playing like raptor [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

[Scuba Chuck]

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what has me worried is i'm in the majority. That never happens. I'm not kidding either. For me to be in the majority in this poll represents a major shift in this groups thinking. I like being contrarian. If this continues I'm gonna end up playing like raptor [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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Care to explain your reasoning for calling here?

[curtains]

FWIW the most you can gain from calling according to SNGPT s +.6%, if they are pushing with 100% of hands.