$22 You make this C-bet?

[Melchiades]

Checking behind on the turn will be hard though perg, considering hero is in the SB. I bet 250 here I think.

[pergesu]

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an intellegent post from pergesu????? what next? one from me, or dare i say.....skipper?

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I make lots of intelligent posts. There are just too many stupid questions here that aren't worth replying to.

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Checking behind on the turn will be hard though perg, considering hero is in the SB. I bet 250 here I think.

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Bah, perg is a retard. Yes I see the irony in stating this immediately following my rebuttal to beef.

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... how do you respond to aggression on the turn? Is it conceivable that JJ/TT would come out firing?

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I think you have to check-fold the turn. He's already showed some strength (albeit not a lot) by raising and calling a reraise preflop, then calling your CB on the flop. He could fire with JJ/TT on the turn if he's pretty aggressive, but I don't think it's particularly likely. I'd definitely just c/f unless he made a very small bet...then my FPS would kick in and I'd probably c/r (but I can assure you that's not the right play).

[Snarf]

At an aggressive table I bet out enough to make anything but a king fold.

At a more passive table...

Slansky talks about it...if your hand is likely to
a) not improve to the best hand if its already beat
b) not be outdrawn if its currently the best hand

Then he reccomends 'slowplaying'

You get more value from lesser hands while not losing more to the hands that beat you.

[pergesu]

Sure looks like the first hand of the tourney. So you wouldn't know if this is a passive or aggressive table, unless you've played with a lot of the players before.

I think there are two ways you can approach this. First is to bet large, and be pretty sure you're beat when you're called. Nothing really wrong with that. The second way is to bet less, and not be entirely sure of where you're at when you're called. I think the second way is advantageous because it allows you to get more chips when you're ahead by expanding the range of hands he could logically call with, and lose less when you're behind. Seems like a reasonable formula for getting the most value out of this hand.

Betting larger tells you where you're at immediately..but it's not like you need to know that. "Defining" your hand is overrated. Do you really know more about your hand when it goes Hero: Bet Big Opponent: Call vs H: Bet Small O: Call, H: Check O: Bet? That should tell you the same thing (you're beat), and cost you less doing it. You'll also know when you're ahead and can make a VB on the river.