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Old 12-19-2005, 12:56 PM
Isura Isura is offline
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Default blinds battle - set

New table. Villain has done stuff like minraise preflop, and bet small on the flop. But he hasn't shown down a hand. Thoughts?

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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Button ($10.50)
Hero ($103.60)
BB ($172.75)
UTG ($75.45)
MP ($167.70)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, BB calls $3.

Flop: ($8) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $10</font>, Hero calls $5.

Turn: ($28) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $15</font>, BB calls $15.

River: ($58) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $30</font>
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Old 12-19-2005, 12:57 PM
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Default Re: blinds battle - set

I really don't like the turn donkbet. Either 3-bet the flop or check/raise the turn. I generally 3-bet the flop.
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Old 12-19-2005, 12:59 PM
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Default Re: blinds battle - set

Love it.

I want to ask what was your purpose for donking the turn? Did you do it to control the pot with a kind of blocking bet? Get value against an opponent you think will check-behind too often? Something else?
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Old 12-19-2005, 01:10 PM
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Default Re: blinds battle - set

i don't like it, i think any decent player will see thru your line and put you on a set.

3-bet the flop
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Old 12-19-2005, 01:16 PM
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I'd bet 7-8 on the flop, 2/3-3/4 on turn and something like that on the river too. You really look like you're trying to squeeze out as much as you can from an ace here, but I doubt he's noticing. I think you lost some value here by only betting half the pot.
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Old 12-19-2005, 01:40 PM
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Check raise the turn; most of the time, I think villian is protecting an ace against a play that looks like a steal. You *must* have a read on opponent though, since a big CR might make him fold. Value, value, value!
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Old 12-19-2005, 01:43 PM
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Value, value, value!

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i think OP has the "value" part of his game down, just look at the way he played the hand.
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Old 12-19-2005, 02:01 PM
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Either I 3 bet Flop, or I check-raise Turn.


I also would make bets at least 2/3 pot sized. If he has an Ace, he's not folding to a potential steal.
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Old 12-19-2005, 02:37 PM
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I like this line alot. 3 bet there is no reason for preflop, not many draws and it looks way to strong. Turn has too much of a chance of getting checked through vs an unknown for a c/r to be more profitable. I think this is the optimal line from this game theory perspective. Those that say the stop and go turn is too transparent, I think a 3 bet on the flop is much more so.
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Old 12-19-2005, 02:39 PM
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Love it.

I want to ask what was your purpose for donking the turn? Did you do it to control the pot with a kind of blocking bet? Get value against an opponent you think will check-behind too often? Something else?

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Value, we don't care to control this pot with middle set. Yes your logic is good, you can't assume a bet from an opponent on the turn just because he minraised the flop. (against an agro villain I'd c/r this)
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