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Old 09-16-2005, 03:14 AM
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Default That sinking feeling on the turn

Please rip away.

Party Poker Pot-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

MP3 ($18.65)
Hero ($50.80)
Button ($75.34)
SB ($24.90)
BB ($15.50)
UTG ($41.47)
UTG+1 ($25.35)
MP1 ($20.30)
MP2 ($16.55)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
UTG calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($1.25) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $0.5</font>, BB folds, UTG folds, MP1 calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, SB calls $1.50, MP1 folds.

Turn: ($5.75) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $10</font>, Hero calls $6.

River: ($25.75) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero?
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Old 09-16-2005, 03:30 AM
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Default Re: That sinking feeling on the turn

Pot raise the turn. I'm quite sure he has two pair.

If you're really scared of 9-10 here, may I suggest checkers?

If I'm villian, I'm saying "WTF? A set? Damn" on showdown.

Oh, and there has never been a sweeter river than the innocuous deuce.
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Old 09-16-2005, 03:38 AM
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Default Re: That sinking feeling on the turn

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I'm quite sure he has two pair.

If you're really scared of 9-10 here, may I suggest checkers?


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Wow. you were perfectly wrong. but i appreciate your confidence.
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Old 09-16-2005, 03:40 AM
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I'm quite sure he has two pair.

If you're really scared of 9-10 here, may I suggest checkers?


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Wow. you were perfectly wrong. but i appreciate your confidence.

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Hah, can't win em all. Maybe I should consider checkers?

Ah, life.
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Old 09-16-2005, 03:42 AM
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It occurs to me that the fact you posted that hand at all is evidence your set was no good.

If you'd won, you would've said "oh, foolish villian. My mighty set is, of course good" and gone on as a hugely winning player.

I still mantain that most of the time the set is good.
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Old 09-16-2005, 04:00 AM
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Default Re: That sinking feeling on the turn

You have a set, on a rainbow board, with only one straight combination, the pot is $25 and villain has $12 behind once you call his raise. I don't think I can find a fold here. Push the turn raise or push the river. The turn is probably best, in case villain might fold a scary river or if he misses a draw on the river.
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Old 09-16-2005, 04:07 AM
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It occurs to me that the fact you posted that hand at all is evidence your set was no good.

If you'd won, you would've said "oh, foolish villian. My mighty set is, of course good" and gone on as a hugely winning player.

I still mantain that most of the time the set is good.

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Yes, to the first part. When he raised my turn I really did think there was a fair chance he made the nuts. I called the river feeling pretty confident I was beat. That is why I posted the hand. I just couldn't lay down the set at a 25$ table. So, is that why I'm at 25$ tables? Strong read yet can't act on it?
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Old 09-16-2005, 04:11 AM
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Default Re: That sinking feeling on the turn

Whats your 'strong read' based on? Whats a 'fairly good chance'? Break these down into more quantifiable terms and you can begin to really analyze whether folding is an option or not.
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Old 09-16-2005, 04:12 AM
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You have a set, on a rainbow board, with only one straight combination, the pot is $25 and villain has $12 behind once you call his raise. I don't think I can find a fold here. Push the turn raise or push the river. The turn is probably best, in case villain might fold a scary river or if he misses a draw on the river.

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Yea, I can't argue with that. Damn intuition...
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Old 09-16-2005, 04:22 AM
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Default Re: That sinking feeling on the turn

Getting all in was the correct play. Just because you lost this time doesn't mean it was the wrong thing to do.

Sometimes you play perfectly and lose [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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