Two Plus Two Older Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Older Archives > PL/NL Texas Hold'em > Mid-, High-Stakes Pot- and No-Limit Hold'em
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 11-23-2005, 04:10 PM
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default SB vs BB, What Line do you take?

Have been sitting together for about an hour. Every single time the table folds around to him and it is just SB vs BB he has raised. I have hit one hand before and played back at him. Other times I had air and still played back at him. He folded pretty much everytime on the turn.

Seat 6: SB - Villian $1844
Seat 7: BB - Hero $2184

Villian posts small blind (10)
Hero posts big blind (20)

Dealt to Hero A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Villian raises (50) to 60
Hero calls (40)

Dealing Flop : 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

SB bets (75)
Hero calls (75)

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

SB bets 150

Hero.....?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 11-23-2005, 04:12 PM
yvesaint yvesaint is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: sittin on my 6xbuy-in stack
Posts: 690
Default Re: SB vs BB, What Line do you take?

i dunno, raise everywhere
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-23-2005, 04:15 PM
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: SB vs BB, What Line do you take?

Yeah I realize that, but I am confident I have the best hand preflop and after the flop, I am asking so I can extract value. Just curious as to what line you would take, but apparently you would just try and not even see a flop?
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11-23-2005, 04:27 PM
HoldEmKillah HoldEmKillah is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 11
Default Re: SB vs BB, What Line do you take?

No. Raise preflop since you have the best hand. Raise the flop since you have a big draw and possibly the best hand. Raise the turn since you likely have the best hand and, if not, plenty of outs. call, call, call. wtf is that?
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11-23-2005, 04:39 PM
yvesaint yvesaint is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: sittin on my 6xbuy-in stack
Posts: 690
Default Re: SB vs BB, What Line do you take?

[ QUOTE ]
Yeah I realize that, but I am confident I have the best hand preflop and after the flop, I am asking so I can extract value. Just curious as to what line you would take, but apparently you would just try and not even see a flop?

[/ QUOTE ]

pre-flop is fine, but why wouldnt you want to raise the flop? you can peel off a blank turn if he checks to you too

youre not going to get "value" i think unless you put in a raise somewhere, and that flop is just too good for you not to
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-23-2005, 05:00 PM
whitelime whitelime is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 112
Default Re: SB vs BB, What Line do you take?

Reraise preflop. Raise the flop. Given how you played preflop and flop, calling turn is fine.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11-23-2005, 05:15 PM
Big_Jim Big_Jim is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 89
Default Re: SB vs BB, What Line do you take?

Re-Raise PF: You have a monster and position vs. a likely weak hand.

Flop: No reason to give him credit for anything, and you have a huge draw, looks like a nice spot for a semi-bluff. Raise it up.

Turn: Given how it's played out... call is good. His weak bet means one of a few things:
a) He's trying to price himself in on a draw, this would be excellent.
b) He has a big hand and wants you to raise him.
c) He has a weakish made hand (Overpair to the flop, Ax that hit the turn) and is trying to get value from weaker holdings.

In all of these spots, a call is best. He's drawing at 1-5 outs if you're ahead, and the pot's not too big, so giving a cheap card isn't terrible. If you're behind, that card could could be a lifesaver.

If you raise the turn, and get re-raised.... then you're in an ugly ass spot.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 11-23-2005, 05:18 PM
Yeti Yeti is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 30
Default Re: SB vs BB, What Line do you take?

[ QUOTE ]
Reraise preflop. Raise the flop. Given how you played preflop and flop, calling turn is fine.

[/ QUOTE ]

Perfect.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 11-23-2005, 05:18 PM
Riverman Riverman is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 84
Default Re: SB vs BB, What Line do you take?

Re-raise preflop most of the time but occasionally calling is fine. I like a raise on the flop because if he re-raises your push will fold a lot of hands. As played I am not raising the turn because I think his likely holdings are A)air and B) worse ace
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 11-23-2005, 05:30 PM
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: SB vs BB, What Line do you take?

Apparently everyone hated how I played this hand.

1. I usually do reraise preflop with this hand but this was a rare instance in which I just called to mix things up.

2. I raised the turn up to $350 and he folded. I was assuming the SB had sh*t.

Like I said in the opening I had been playing back at him alot and I was hoping he was going to get feed up with me pushing him around. If he would have pushed I would have instacalled.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:08 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.