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Old 12-30-2005, 07:26 PM
GTSamIAm GTSamIAm is offline
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Default Turn Against Tight, Passive

I'm dealt AKo in MP3.

UTG+1 raises. I reraise. Everyone else folds. I call.

The flop is K93 with two hearts. I have the ace of hearts.

UTG+1 checks. I bet.

The turn is a non-heart queen.

UTG+1 checks. I bet. UTG+1 raises.

What range of hands do I put this player on? Should I ever fold this hand? If I'm folding, its probably on the river, correct?
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Old 12-30-2005, 07:31 PM
milesdyson milesdyson is offline
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Default Re: Turn Against Tight, Passive

will he cap QQ preflop? what about AK? i mean how tight passive is he? did he cap in this hand? because it isn't clear. you say you reraised and called but you never said he capped.
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Old 12-30-2005, 07:33 PM
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Default Re: Turn Against Tight, Passive

Again, you have given us no reads to work with.

It looks like he puts YOU on AK
when he raises the non-heart turn, his
c/r looks like KQ or even 99; maybe QQ, KK - which
is less likely due to no cap pf.

The turn c/r is very strong here due to the strength
you have already shown in the hand. I would put you
behind or drawing dead frequently (again with no reads).

If you agree his turn c/r is strong and he doesn't bluff like
this the correct fold may be on the turn. That said, TPTK
is too damn good in a Micro game to fold with any
certainty. I might see the river, make a crying call and notate
the play of the SB for later hands.

Tough one kiddo...

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Old 12-30-2005, 07:34 PM
GTSamIAm GTSamIAm is offline
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Default Re: Turn Against Tight, Passive

That's right. He never capped. I haven't watched enough hands to be completely sure of his play, mainly because he hasn't played many hands. So I don't have great specific reads, I just have observed he is tight and passive.
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Old 12-30-2005, 07:47 PM
GTSamIAm GTSamIAm is offline
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Default Re: Turn Against Tight, Passive

You can't ever put him on AK, can you?
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Old 12-30-2005, 07:50 PM
ZenMusician ZenMusician is offline
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Default Re: Turn Against Tight, Passive

I can put him on AK, but we cannot forget about
what he thinks you have after the raising war pre flop.

Again, does your opponent re-raise/cap with AK?

We cannot read a player we have never seen, we can only
give standard ideas when we lack them.

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Old 12-30-2005, 08:52 PM
kleinstadt1 kleinstadt1 is offline
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Default Re: Turn Against Tight, Passive

At the risk of being redundant (I haven't read any responses yet), and assuming he's a rational player: 99, 33, QQ, KQ, AK. KQ being most likely (although he usually shouldn't be raising with it in EP) Less likely, but possible AA or KK.

You fold if he's a total rock. If you fold, you should probably do it immediately. Of the possible hands, you have AK tied and three outs to beat KQ. You have two outs to beat the rest of the hands. Turn check raise means he's almost certainly going to bet the river. You're not going to call a turn bet to draw, are you?
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