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11-29-2005, 12:52 PM
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someone told me i misplayed this
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Hero opens w/ KdKh 6 handed UTG, BB (unknown) 3bets, Hero Caps, BB Calls Flop: 9dThQc BB checks, Hero Bets, BB c/res, Hero Calls Turn:Tc BB bets, Hero wiggles mouse between call and raise and then calls River: 2c BB bets, Hero raises, BB calls [/ QUOTE ] what do you guys think 
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#2
11-29-2005, 12:56 PM
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Re: someone told me i misplayed this
I raise the turn.
Krishan
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#3
11-29-2005, 01:00 PM
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Re: someone told me i misplayed this
I would 3bet the flop mainly because I don't like the idea of putting 3bets in on the turn or river since his range contains 99, TT, QQ, AA and possibly JK. Who knows, maybe he'll cap it up with AQ/AJ/KQ or JJ! I don't have a problem with waiting to raise, but I think you're better off raising the turn than than you are raising the river. There's a chance he will check/call the river or check/fold if he was on a draw when he would have called (or even semibluff 3bet!) the turn.
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#4
11-29-2005, 02:37 PM
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Re: someone told me i misplayed this
The benefit to raising the river on a club is that you'll make money when ahead, but you wont lose an extra bet when behind. A non-club river might get three-bet. Would you have raised a non-club river?
The risk of raising the turn is that you get 3-bet and it costs you substantially more to see the showdown (when you are crushed behind either middle pair that made trips, a str8, etc.) Im indifferent between the approaches, particularly lacking any reads.
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#5
11-29-2005, 03:00 PM
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Re: someone told me i misplayed this
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I raise the turn. Krishan [/ QUOTE ] I do too, but now that hand you posted with villain waiting has me second guessing myself.
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#6
11-29-2005, 03:10 PM
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Re: someone told me i misplayed this
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[ QUOTE ] I raise the turn. Krishan [/ QUOTE ] I do too, but now that hand you posted with villain waiting has me second guessing myself. [/ QUOTE ] Those are absurdly different situations. (If I'm thinking of the correct hand) Krishan
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#7
11-29-2005, 04:24 PM
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Re: someone told me i misplayed this
Boards like this are very difficult for me. I have trouble trying to quantify how often we are ahead and adjusting my line appropriately. For example, in this hand I would assume that we weren't ahead that much more than half the time and shy away from raising the turn in fear of the 3 bet. It's frustrating. Am I just making an overly pessemistic assumption?
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#8
11-29-2005, 04:30 PM
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Re: someone told me i misplayed this
Basically what Lmn said. I'd rather get more bets in on the flop and then move into call down/fold mode if I don't like what happens than get slapped around on the turn. I think this depends a lot on what your range for him is and how you think he'll respond to that further action.
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#9
11-29-2005, 04:45 PM
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Re: someone told me i misplayed this
Raising the flop with the potential for getting slapped should only be different from raising the turn with the potential for getting slapped around in that the flop 3 bet will be interperted as less strength (I think?). This might cause the villain to cap with something like AQ. The T doesn't really change anything.
I might be weak-tight for asking, but was the OP intending to fold to a 3 bet on the river?
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#10
11-29-2005, 05:41 PM
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Re: someone told me i misplayed this
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[ QUOTE ] Hero opens w/ KdKh 6 handed UTG, BB (unknown) 3bets, Hero Caps, BB Calls Flop: 9dThQc BB checks, Hero Bets, BB c/res, Hero Calls Turn:Tc BB bets, Hero wiggles mouse between call and raise and then calls River: 2c BB bets, Hero raises, BB calls [/ QUOTE ] what do you guys think [/ QUOTE ] id raise the turn. he might puss out with KQ or QJ on the river, especially if its an A or 8 (and he doesnt have a J) or something
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