99 vs. TAG w/ overcards

UncleSalty · #1 08-21-2005, 11:44 AM

I'm just getting started at 6-max, and post flop is still confusing me. At full ring this is obviously an automuck on the turn.

Villain is a TAG after only about 40 hands at the table, so no real read. Can I let this go to the turn raise? Calling down felt like spewing. How aggressive/maniacal does a villain need to be to justify calling this down?

Thanks.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. UTG posts a blind of $3.
MP raises, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets, 2 folds, MP calls.

Flop: (7.33 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP checks, Hero bets, MP calls.

Turn: (4.66 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP checks, Hero bets, MP raises, Hero calls.

River: (8.66 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.66 BB

RunDownHouse · #2 08-21-2005, 11:50 AM

I don't think you can call the river, which makes me lean towards folding to the turn raise. The only way I can see calling the turn c/r is if you've seen him pull moves with draws. Then there's a chance he's doing this with something like AK or KT.

But I'd have to have a pretty specific read to take that line. Against a normal TAG, he's telling you he's got you beat.

UncleSalty · #3 08-21-2005, 12:00 PM

Thanks.

In HU situations my understanding is that if you call the turn you must call the river unless the board is extremely scary, correct?

So, in this case I should fold to the turn c/r unless I think he will make a move w/ AK. If I have that sort of read and call the turn in that situation would it be an automatic check/call UI on the river (and folding perhaps to a T or A?), or usually a check/fold?

I assume that most players with TAG stats play this more straightforward and would not get tricky with a 4 outter, given my 3-bet PF, right?

ISF · #4 08-21-2005, 12:01 PM

This should be an auto muck at 6-max as well.

RunDownHouse · #5 08-21-2005, 12:11 PM

Right, I really doubt he'd be pulling this with a draw. You're ahead so rarely that you can't justify paying 2BBs to show down.

Haupt_234 · #6 08-21-2005, 12:15 PM

I don't like the turn call of the checkraise. You are ahead of a semi-bluffing AK assuming the TAG doesn't cap with it or a draw, which doesn't seem likely.

Haupt_234

Roy6 · #7 08-21-2005, 02:10 PM

even if he's just bluffing with a straight/flush-draw, he usually has +6 pair outs, so it's better to fold here.