middle pair on flop.. raise / call / fold?

[greg nice]

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (3 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, BB calls.

Turn: (3.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

River: (5.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 5.50 BB


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Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (6 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls, MP3 folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, BB calls, Hero calls.

River: (12 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, BB folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 19 BB

[DeathDonkey]

Both these preflop limps make me sad. And why the inconsistency between the two hands?

-DeathDonkey

[Urban]

[ QUOTE ]
Both these preflop limps make me sad. And why the inconsistency between the two hands?

-DeathDonkey

[/ QUOTE ]

I guess he follows the pre flop advice in SSH. Is a raise so much better here?

/newbie

[DeathDonkey]

I would fold hand one and raise hand two. I don't know what it says in SSH but I think this has been discussed and debated to death and limping with these is bad news.

-DeathDonkey

[greg nice]

[ QUOTE ]
And why the inconsistency between the two hands?


[/ QUOTE ]

these hands were back to back and i planned on trying something different the second time. no rhyme or reason. im unsure how to play these situations. 2nd hand turned into a disaster.

[Sykes]

Hand #1: Fold pre-flop.

Hand #2: SSHE says to just call pre-flop, so I guess calling here is fine.