Fold cowboys on the river?

fluxrad · #1 03-13-2005, 03:10 AM

Paradise Poker 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (7 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 3 folds, Hero raises, SB calls, 1 fold, UTG calls.

Flop: (7 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, SB folds, UTG calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG calls.

River: (6.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.50 BB

bigmac366 · #2 03-13-2005, 03:16 AM

i think you can safely fold here. i wouldve checked the river through though. theres just too many ways your beat.

Bodhi · #3 03-13-2005, 03:31 AM

Check behind on the river.

gvibes · #4 03-13-2005, 03:50 AM

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Dead · #5 03-13-2005, 03:53 AM

Yes fold to the check-raise.

I'd probably pay it off but that's a leak. Unless you've seen him bluff check-raise before. Then I call it.

davelin · #6 03-13-2005, 03:58 AM

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Not sure if I agree with this.

Dead · #7 03-13-2005, 04:01 AM

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I don't agree with it either, Davelin, but I think that once Hero is check-raised on the river, Hero should fold this pot. I don't think he's good here 1 in 7 times.

davelin · #8 03-13-2005, 04:03 AM

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I don't agree with it either, Davelin, but I think that once Hero is check-raised on the river, Hero should fold this pot. I don't think he's good here 1 in 7 times.

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You're probably correct without a read on Villain.

Dead · #9 03-13-2005, 04:05 AM

This is one of my big leaks. Not folding to check-raises from passive players with hands like TP or an overpair on the river. Unless the pot is decent sized(10 BB or more) I should likely fold.

elbuddha · #10 03-13-2005, 10:54 AM

Its not a 1 in 7 situation, its 9.5:1 and closing the action - so you need to be good here 1 in 10.5 times, or 9.5%. That's close enough that I'm paying this off to an unknown opponent.

However, I don't think a check-behind on the river would have been that bad. By betting we risk 1 BB to gain only 1 BB if UTG calls with a worse hand - if UTG folds, has been calling down with an A, or has a made flush, we gain nothing.