Weak hand, bet river?

teajay · #1 09-17-2005, 10:00 PM

MP2 is 36/14/3.6
UTG is 22/0/0.64 only 40 hands

MP2 raising a lot of hands and looks aggressive I figured I would call his flop bet and re-evaluate the turn. Does anyone think 3rd button w/ BD baby flush draw is a weak call for this flop?

Since he checked behind on the turn I figured over cards are most likely. I was now planning on betting a safe river card. Of course, this card brings 4 to a straight down and an overcard, which may have hit him. This got me thinking, which would be better, check/call, check/fold, bet/fold?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls, 3 folds, MP2 raises, MP3 calls, 3 folds, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP2 bets, MP3 folds, Hero calls, UTG folds.

Turn: (5.75 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks.

River: (5.75 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero ??

aK13 · #2 09-17-2005, 10:01 PM

Fold to the flop bet.

I like check/calling the river against this duder.

ArturiusX · #3 09-17-2005, 10:03 PM

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Fold to the flop bet.

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Looking at mp2s range, and the fact it'll be heads up, we can peel here.

aK13 · #4 09-17-2005, 10:05 PM

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Fold to the flop bet.

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Looking at mp2s range, and the fact it'll be heads up, we can peel here.

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Then raising > calling isn't it?

ArturiusX · #5 09-17-2005, 10:08 PM

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Then raising > calling isn't it?

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mp2s equity can die on the turn, and alternativly ours can sky rocket. We may not have the equity on the flop to raise for value, and getting 3-bet sucks. Even if he calls our raise, a few turn cards really suck.

teajay · #6 09-18-2005, 01:00 AM

I don't know much of what I was thinking at the time of this. I posted to see what was thought about it.

In retrospect I don't like this bet. It seems to be more of a bluff at the straight, but I doubt this loose opponent would fold if he held a hand. Given the coordinated nature of this board, I don't think this would ever get called by a worst hand.

Paradise Poker 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls, 3 folds, MP2 raises, MP3 calls, 3 folds, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP2 bets, MP3 folds, Hero calls, UTG folds.

Turn: (5.75 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks.

River: (5.75 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, MP2 folds.

Final Pot: 6.75 BB