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Old 12-20-2005, 10:19 AM
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I'm still waiting for indpendent corroboration of that story by another media source. Found it yet?

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Old 12-20-2005, 10:33 AM
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I'm still waiting for indpendent corroboration of that story by another media source. Found it yet?

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Liberal hacks all across America whose political opinions are based on emotions and utopian visions instead of logic, facts and realistic perceptions of long term consequences agree.
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Old 12-20-2005, 10:39 AM
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I have not looked and have no plans to do so and have no opinion on the veracity of the story.

What is interesting to me is the reaction from those who are a) willing to believe everything from certain sources and b) those who unwilling to believe anything from certain sources.
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Old 12-20-2005, 10:44 AM
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I am not unwilling to believe that particular source, just unwilling to believe any story that is not picked up by mulitple media sources which means they have vetted it. And canis isn't saying he is willing to believe all he reads, just that it wouldn't matter to him if such a story were fabricated in order to make a political point.
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Old 12-20-2005, 11:02 AM
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You arent going to make this thread about the source. Its about the fact that america is turning from a republic into a facist nation. Bush wants to be a dictator.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/12/20/9408/0642
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Old 12-20-2005, 11:19 AM
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I'm sure glad you don't exaggerate.
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Old 12-20-2005, 12:17 PM
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Default You keep avoiding the issue

It is a fact that the books you or any other American is borrowing from a public library (perhaps even a private library) are being monitored, along with a number of other activities.

Since this is a fact, it follows that the people who are doing the monitoring will investigate when something comes up on their radar -- and they get to define what's on the radar and what's not.

Part of the investigation might be asking the "suspect" some questions. As those guys supposedly did.

But even if that particularly story turns out to be totally untrue, the circumstances are there for the scenario to be played a thousand times. The most you can accuse those spooks of doing wrong is being very blatant about it!
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Old 12-20-2005, 12:56 PM
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Fascism and democracy are not mutually exclusive. It's quite possible to have a Fascist Democracy, all it requires is that a majority of citizens to be pro-fascist.
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Old 12-20-2005, 01:21 PM
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But what force could make the citizens accept fascism? Perhaps a charismatic leader.

Hitler was democratically elected you know.
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Old 12-20-2005, 01:36 PM
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kinda. i don't know if you can really call the circumstances of hitler's rise to power democratic.
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