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Old 05-08-2005, 12:47 AM
ZeeJustin ZeeJustin is offline
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Default $30/$60 - weakly played aces?

Party Poker 30/60 Hold'em (7 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, MP2 calls, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 caps</font>, MP2 calls, CO calls, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (21.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
UTG checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, CO folds.

Turn: (12.25 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, MP1 checks, Hero checks.

River: (12.25 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, MP1 calls, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 14.25 BB

For gametime+ i use VPIP/PFR/AF/Hands in DB

UTG is 13/0/2.5/31
MP1 is 52/22/0.71/54
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Old 05-08-2005, 01:04 AM
ggbman ggbman is offline
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Default Re: $30/$60 - weakly played aces?

I think the turn is a pretty standard bet and fold to a raise. Seriously Zee, this pot is [censored] huge, you weren't popped on the flop, and theres a reasonable chance your ahead. If you get raised, it's a straightforward muck. Make the flush draw pay and see where you stand on the river.
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Old 05-08-2005, 01:20 AM
NMcNasty NMcNasty is offline
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Default Re: $30/$60 - weakly played aces?

You should call the river. You have both players beat at least once out of 14 times. Im ok with the check on the turn. Its more likely someone has a queen or a three than a flush draw.
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Old 05-08-2005, 01:51 AM
Danenania Danenania is offline
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Default Re: $30/$60 - weakly played aces?

I think the turn check is pretty bad. Just because they called on the flop getting over 20 to 1 doesn't mean they have anything, and you don't want to give 2 outers a free shot. Plus there's some chance of a flush draw.

The river I would call. You definitely have MP beat and I think you have UTG too at least 1 in 14.
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Old 05-08-2005, 02:02 AM
lil feller lil feller is offline
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Default Re: $30/$60 - weakly played aces?

Turn check is debatable, not really enough hands/info to know if somebody will recognize that you couldn't have liked that card and will take a shot at you with a flush draw.

River fold, especially after the turn check, is horrible.

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Old 05-08-2005, 02:33 AM
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Default Re: $30/$60 - weakly played aces?

you and bruiser are hilarious.
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Old 05-08-2005, 02:52 AM
Steve Giufre Steve Giufre is offline
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Default Re: $30/$60 - weakly played aces?

I would bet the turn 100% of the time. More often than not you will hear from a queen on the flop, especially in a 7 handed game. I think you are giving up way too value by checking, these guys will call the turn and river with all sorts of worse hands. I'm not familiar with the AF stat, but it seems like UTG is a real tight ass. I'm not positive you have to pay off a checkraise from him, considering all the previous action I cant imagine he thinks he can blow anybody off a hand. Anyhow I deal with that if it comes up. You can defintely pay off a CR from MP1.

The river looks like an easy call given your turn check. Why cant he be value betting a worse hand after the turn was checked around? I dont even look at it as an overcall since MP1 is probably calling with any pair in this spot. Would you fold if MP1 dumped the river and it was a HU situation?
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Old 05-08-2005, 03:16 AM
johnnycakes johnnycakes is offline
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Default Re: $30/$60 - weakly played aces?

What??
I don't understand the turn check.
Why did you check?

Thanks.
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Old 05-08-2005, 08:15 AM
1800GAMBLER 1800GAMBLER is offline
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You would have heard from a queen. Bet the turn.
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Old 05-08-2005, 09:01 AM
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Default Re: $30/$60 - weakly played aces?

Zee this is stinky, man.
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