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Old 06-24-2004, 06:41 PM
bdk3clash bdk3clash is offline
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Default Re: Ready for some hard core statistical significance?

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Maybe you missed the sarcasm in his post? I didn't think it was that subtle.

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I was just, uh, clarifying that he was being sarcastic for those dumb enough to have not picked up on it. Yeah, that's my story, and I'm sticking to it. [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

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No offense meant.

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None taken. (sniffle)
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Old 06-24-2004, 08:21 PM
Blarg Blarg is offline
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Default Re: Where\'s your first Red figure on Pokertracker?

13,553 hands

Ace-suited is profitable, very profitable, all the way through A7s. Except for AQ suited, which is a moderate loser.

Ace-X offsuit is only a winner down through Ace, 10.

KK, KQs, KQo, and KJs, are all winners, and from then on pretty much everthing with a King in it starts to kil me.

BB/100 won goes AA, KK, QQ, KQs, AKo, AJs, AKs. I've won twice as much money with AKo as AKS, have 40% more BB/100 wins, win 4% more often. Yet I win more than 50% more per hand with AKs.

QJs is my biggest loser of all according to money won/lost and by an almost 50% margin compared to the next leading contender, yet QJ offsuit is a very solid winner.

In terms of winning percentages, I only have five winning hands that win more than 50% of the time: AA, KK, QQ, AK offsuit, AK suited, in that order. AKs comes in at 51.28, and the next step down jumps drastically, AQ offsuit jumps to 39.45% wins.

Luckily, it's not just how often you win, but how much you win or lose per hand!

Strangely enough, I seem to do very well with 8,8.

Fun stuff to look over, occasionally useful too. But when I see how drastically my figures can swoop up and down from just one win, it reminds me that even over 13k hands recorded is just a real drop in the bucket. I think until I get at least 50k hands, I'm going to feel a lot of my conclusions are just preliminary. And preferably more like 100k.
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Old 06-24-2004, 10:34 PM
RiverMise RiverMise is offline
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Default Re: Where\'s your first Red figure on Pokertracker?

Stats for 5-10 (6max)

JJ (just got them an unusually high amount compared to other top hands)
AA
KK
AKs
TT
A9o


Worst:
QJo (I dont think I am misplaying this but I will have to take another look)

For 5-10 (6Max) nearly all of my Ax's are profitable except like A2, A3 etc.
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Old 06-25-2004, 04:39 AM
DeeJ DeeJ is offline
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Default Re: Where\'s your first Red figure on Pokertracker?

A8o sounds like a feasible limit. I think it should be possible to make all Axs profitable too, I'm at the wrong PC to check but the Axs figures for me are pretty profitable all the way down I think. It does only take one big hand to sway things with 16k hands though, and Axs are statistically fewer than Axo and subject to far more variance in the short term.

I think I need to tighten up on ATo, which I used to happily play from MP onwards, but now I'm moving it rather closer to the button to open with.

It's also a challenge to play if there's one early limper in MP. What do you do? I fold to a raise everywhere except BB (sometimes SB if it's loose).
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Old 06-25-2004, 04:33 PM
TxSteve TxSteve is offline
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Default Re: Where\'s your first Red figure on Pokertracker?

Well,

I think i win the worst player award then!

my first red is AJo 171 times. 58% win (.21) per hand.

what can i learn from this?
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Old 06-26-2004, 06:11 PM
DeeJ DeeJ is offline
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Default Re: Where\'s your first Red figure on Pokertracker?

You are overplaying it when you don't hit ?
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Old 06-26-2004, 06:26 PM
mosch mosch is offline
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Default Re: Where\'s your first Red figure on Pokertracker?

I think you have to read the hands you played with it (both the ones you won, and the ones you lost) to know.

We can't tell from those stats if you've been overplaying it, underplaying it, or if you've just taken a few awful beats. When you're looking for leaks, be sure to look at both the winning and the losing hands, failure to value bet is a cardinal sin.
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Old 06-26-2004, 07:32 PM
BigBaitsim (milo) BigBaitsim (milo) is offline
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Default Re: Where\'s your first Red figure on Pokertracker?

A6s and below.
77, 66, 55, 44 (33 & 22 are winners).
A9o and below.

JKo is my biggest loser. Perhaps I do it (er, I mean play it) too often.
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