Overthinking a sledgehammer?

slavic · #1 02-13-2005, 06:48 AM

A few debatable plays here.

Muck 20/40 game(9 handed) I like the game, the game is nice. It has all the good qualitites one looks for in a game, even with four non-action players in the game.

Utg open raises he has a fairly wide range of hands here. Most medium to large aces, most pairs, big suited connectors, it's really a medally of goodness. He's quite aggressive post flop. Folds around to the button who cold calls. This means he has a limping hand or better he's fairly passive post flop. I look down in the SB and find AKo I start to 3 bet but the BB mucks before I can get chips out and I just call.

Flop: 5 5 2r

I bet, UTG calls, button calls

Turn A puts two spades on the board.

I bet, UTG calls, button folds

At this point I'm fairly certain UTG has an ace.

River: T offsuit

I check.

Alexthegreat · #2 02-13-2005, 06:56 AM

and raise?

I like it if he's going to bet, but I'm thinking he probably isn't going to bet often enough for this to be correct....

Probably a little too fancy, just bet out and take the pot

CardSharpCook · #3 02-13-2005, 06:57 AM

did you chk, hoping to chk/rz? That is ok. I think he will bet out his ace. I also think that if he missed, he'll bluff. I also think he'll think his PP is good, so he'll bet. I really like this move IF you are planning to raise.

However, if you were planning to lead out on the flop, 3-bet PF. As it turned out, UTG probably thinks you either have the third five or are getting real aggro with your 66.

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CardSharpCook · #4 02-13-2005, 06:58 AM

hey, slavic, your picture is taken a mile away from the house I grew up at. You live around there?

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bobbyi · #5 02-13-2005, 07:01 AM

Against people with hand ranges like you describe, I really think you should three-bet this for value preflop, regardless of whether BB is already mucking.

TStoneMBD · #6 02-13-2005, 07:08 AM

i also agree with the 3bet, but more importantly i think you should have checkraised the turn here. the river check is ok, but much more clear cut if you think he is capable of valuebetting a pocket pair.

Kaz The Original · #7 02-13-2005, 07:49 AM

This looks nice, real suave like. It's a pretty good flop for you, all things considered. Why do you think he just called the turn when he hit his ace? Was he looking to raise the river? Thinking you have a five and looking to get to showdown cheap?

slavic · #8 02-13-2005, 01:34 PM

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i also agree with the 3bet, but more importantly i think you should have checkraised the turn here. the river check is ok, but much more clear cut if you think he is capable of valuebetting a pocket pair.

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Hi TStoneMBD -

I thought there was a decent chance that I would be raised on the turn with as little as a flush draw. That's player specific in this case and also depends on how aware he is of me.

slavic · #9 02-13-2005, 03:53 PM

Nope I live in Seattle.

I went to school at UT.

slavic · #10 02-13-2005, 04:00 PM

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Against people with hand ranges like you describe, I really think you should three-bet this for value preflop, regardless of whether BB is already mucking.

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Hi Bobby-

What about keeping the pot smaller to pick it up when I miss, and denying the maniac the one asset he has in the ability to easily read hands?