The Top 10 NFL QBs - Page 2

brettbrettr · #11 10-03-2005, 10:06 AM

Vick, Leftwich, Roethils, no Culpepper?

mmbt0ne · #12 10-03-2005, 10:20 AM

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Vick, Leftwich, Roethils, no Culpepper?

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87-133, 1065 yds, 4 TD, 10 INT, 20 sacks. 60.7 QB rating.

No, I don't think he has Culpepper on his list.

brettbrettr · #13 10-03-2005, 10:23 AM

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No, I don't think he has Culpepper on his list.

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And if this question had been posted before yesterday then Payton Manning would have been off your list? Citing a slow start from Culpepper puts you in the class of people who include Joey Harrington and Jeff George on their lists. Worse for you is that I"m pretty sure they were joking while I'm pretty sure you're not.

mmbt0ne · #14 10-03-2005, 10:27 AM

Peyton before last week wasn't running his team into the ground. Merely not living up to the 49 TD passes he threw last year. Daunte is swiftly taking over for Kurt Warner.

brettbrettr · #15 10-03-2005, 10:33 AM

You're insane. Culpepper lost the best WR in football and prob the best OC in the game as well. He'll be fine. To say that he's not a top ten QB is ludicrous. You do realize that he had one of the best seasons a QB has ever had last year, right? Judging him based on 4 games is horrible.

brettbrettr · #16 10-03-2005, 10:39 AM

Plus, we should also add that Culpepper was sacked 9 times yesterday and the team committed 11 penalties.

9 times. You should read that again. 9.

mmbt0ne · #17 10-03-2005, 10:54 AM

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Plus, we should also add that Culpepper was sacked 9 times yesterday and the team committed 11 penalties.

9 times. You should read that again. 9.

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I addressed that in my first post. So what, you think that losing the best receiver in the game (which is what made him good anyway) is a good excuse for him to completely blow it as a mobile quarterback now too?

The last Viking QB to take that many sacks was Archie Manning, far from the picture of mobility that people still want to paint on Daunte. He was made by his receiving corps. Meanwhile, Vick gets pounded for winning while not passing the ball to his horrible receivers, and therefore is left off many lists. The double standard is ridiculous.

brettbrettr · #18 10-03-2005, 11:01 AM

I"m saying that losing the best WR in the game *and* his OC (and his current #1 WR) is enough to say, ok, give this guy a bit of time to adjust. Its easily reason enough not to discount what he's done in the past.

mmbt0ne · #19 10-03-2005, 11:02 AM

Fair enough. But I don't think he's got it anymore.

PTjvs · #20 10-03-2005, 11:03 AM

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You're insane. Culpepper lost the best WR in football and prob the best OC in the game as well. He'll be fine. To say that he's not a top ten QB is ludicrous. You do realize that he had one of the best seasons a QB has ever had last year, right? Judging him based on 4 games is horrible.

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I don't know what's wrong with Culpepper, but the blame here has to go squarely on HIM, not on losing Moss. Vs. Cincy he looked like a rookie; he was completely lost at all times & repeatedly threw the ball directly to defensive players.

Last year he was amazing, I'm pretty dumbfounded by his play this year, but if I needed to win a game next WEEK, he'd be about #25 on the list of NFL starting quarterbacks I wanted leading my team.

If i wanted to win the Super Bowl next YEAR, he'd be about #8. At the end of last season, I'd have put him about #3

jvs