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Old 12-11-2005, 11:01 AM
Zim Zim is offline
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Default Some numbers I played with for Kelly bankrolls shortstacked ...

Those who were winning with the shortstack strategy claimed win rates between 3 and 5 PTBB/100 hands. With a standard deviation of between 18 and 21PTBB.

We'll go in the middle then, and say 4PTBB/100 hands, and an SD of 20.

Thus, for a full Kelly bankroll (13% ROR) ..

(20)^2/4= 100 PTBBs or about $50 at your typical $25NL Party game.

Now that's at 13% ROR which is a little swingy for most people ... if we double that stake, we can reduce ROR down to 1.69% (.13x.13)

Thus, $100 should give us 20 buy-ins of about $5 with a ROR of less than 2%.

So ... yah, what everyone has been saying. 15-20 buy-ins should do you fine.

If you are a winning player.

I've recently experimented shortstacking PL. After 3000 hands, ten-tabling, I'm dead even ... but it is interesting.

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Zim
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Old 12-11-2005, 01:37 PM
Rudi Rudi is offline
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Default Re: Some numbers I played with for Kelly bankrolls shortstacked ...

Based on ptmusic's response, I need to find a sight that will let me buy-in for 25BB.

What sites let you buy-in for the 25BB? And what limits are those, since I'd like to start at $0.01/$0.02?
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Old 12-11-2005, 05:16 PM
Matt Ruff Matt Ruff is offline
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Default Re: Some numbers I played with for Kelly bankrolls shortstacked ...

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What sites let you buy-in for the 25BB? And what limits are those, since I'd like to start at $0.01/$0.02?

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Party, Paradise, Full Tilt, and Ultimate Bet will let you buy-in for 25BB, although I think only UB has penny tables.

Pokerstars' minimum buy-in is 20BB at the .05/.10 and higher. At the .01/.02, it's 50BB.
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