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Old 12-31-2005, 09:37 AM
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Default Re: 2/4NL: It\'s a question of stack sizes, really...

whoa dude what are you trying to represent with that river push? if I was him I'd call you with a set or straight, which I reckon makes this a bad push
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Old 12-31-2005, 03:46 PM
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Default Re: 2/4NL: It\'s a question of stack sizes, really...

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whoa dude what are you trying to represent with that river push? if I was him I'd call you with a set or straight, which I reckon makes this a bad push

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He's representing QQ or A5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] or similr hand like that. If I was villain, I'd auto call with a full house, but I may have 3bet the turn w/ those hands.

I think OP should've raise the pot on the turn though, if that was his plan. (raising)
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Old 12-31-2005, 03:56 PM
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whoa dude what are you trying to represent with that river push? if I was him I'd call you with a set or straight, which I reckon makes this a bad push

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I think though villain never has a straight, (what solid player will have 58 or 35 here?) so the question is does he have a set. I imagine a set may c/r the flop and bet the turn, (those bet sizes are pretty effing weak though and scream more "fold if you have nothing," for the flop and "let me see the river cheaply," for the river) but probably vs another deep stack would likely put a third bet in on the turn.

Would a set check the river? If villainwas crafty it is a good spot to c/r the rest all in, (except Hero's turn raise could easily be for free showdown, since it was small; i'd probably just value bet) but the 4 pairing also makes bottom set unlikely. Since I think he needs minimum of 66 to call, (plus, unlikely but possible top two is now counterfeited) and I think those hands would be played differently, Hero's bluff (it also represents a hand he could have) isn't bad at all.

Thing is though, the risk reward isn't great, (he's laying about 3x the pot, I think? This needs to work quite often!!!) but if you raised the pot on the turn, it would alleviate alot of this. (More fold equity there, more value in a bluff on the river, and generally imo just more believability for what you have!)

This definately takes guts, though, OP. nh.
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Old 12-31-2005, 06:10 PM
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if I was him I'd call you with a set or straight, which I reckon makes this a bad push

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Yes, if he had a set (which became a full house, btw), I knew I was getting called. But you'd seriously call that bet with a straight on flush/paired board? ... I don't know if that's a good call or not without an awesome read of some sort.

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