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12-30-2005, 04:28 AM
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Re: Hypothetical protect hand question: raise, cold call or fold?
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and with 4 outs to the nuts you can't fold here [/ QUOTE ] 4 outs to the nuts? As far as I can discern, there are redraws to quads, a full house, the nut flush, and a higher straight. [ QUOTE ] The raise is rather a way of buying outs and getting a freecard. [/ QUOTE ] What indications are there that either of the two opponents is going to fold versus reraising, or that raising into two raisers will get you a free card on the turn? In addition, if no overcards hit the turn wouldn't it be likely that a flop raiser would bet the turn? 
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#12
12-30-2005, 11:42 AM
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Re: Hypothetical protect hand question: raise, cold call or fold?
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[ QUOTE ] and with 4 outs to the nuts you can't fold here [/ QUOTE ] 4 outs to the nuts? As far as I can discern, there are redraws to quads, a full house, the nut flush, and a higher straight. [/ QUOTE ] The nuts is the best possible hand at the moment, I think... [ QUOTE ] What indications are there that either of the two opponents is going to fold versus reraising, or that raising into two raisers will get you a free card on the turn? [/ QUOTE ] It's not impossible the flop bettor will fold to a 3-bet, but mailny we're 3-betting to buy outs from the blind, folding hands such as K9 and KJ. [ QUOTE ] In addition, if no overcards hit the turn wouldn't it be likely that a flop raiser would bet the turn? [/ QUOTE ] And why wouldn't a flop 3-bet result in a freecard a pretty big portion of the time? Why wouldn't they put you on AA-99 when you 3-bet? How can they expect you're being on overs when you 3-bet the flop? They're pretty likely to hold hands such as JTs and AT and in that case they'll often give freecards when we 3-bet.
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