Do I need to pay this off??

[MicroBob]

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I really think a better line is to check call the river, especially against an unknown.

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He acts 2nd.

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Yeah. I had to go back and look at this to try to figure out what you guys are talking about.

If hero checks the river the hand is over (and checking this river would be terrible). Check/call is not an option.

[banditdad]

There's a flush draw, straight draw, straight flush draw, and trips or boat on the board and you think a river check is terrible?

[Monty Cantsin]

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Yeah. I had to go back and look at this to try to figure out what you guys are talking about.

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Yes, being impossible would have been the simplest argument against check/calling. I was confused.

/mc

[banditdad]

That's right. So just check it down. The board sucks. A better hand than yours will raise, a worse hand will fold to the bet. If he raises you are probably going to call and be out 2 bets. I know the CW on 2+2 is always to bet, bet, bet, but here you're just giving it away.

[banditdad]

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And you didn't bet out on the flop because? You needed to narrow the field and gain info on the flop. Bet it.

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Now instead of getting a reason not to bet I was met with a plethora of responses about how this is a 100% no brainer check, I am just a novice player, I am a tool, I should piss off, etc. And of course I overreacted to it and I apologize for that.

Ok. Let's assume for the moment that all of you who would check the flop are correct. Why? I gave my reasons why I thought a flop bet was correct what are your reasons for thinking that a check is correct? My play may be wrong. This is poker not rocket science and I'm a recreational player not a pro so I very well could be wrong. But I need more of a reason than just because we say so.

[Chairman Wood]

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May I fold, please?

[/ QUOTE ] I give you my permission as long as you don't have a read that says he likes to make moves more ofthen than he should. I think he gives you credit for that A.

[krishanleong]

I'm pretty sure I call that. I can't give great reasons but it has something to do with a river board pairing card being a good bluff card, most people waking up on the turn with a better hand, busted flush/straight draws being out there.

I think you are easily good 1-8 here.

Krishan

[TheMetetron]

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I'm pretty sure I call that. I can't give great reasons but it has something to do with a river board pairing card being a good bluff card, most people waking up on the turn with a better hand, busted flush/straight draws being out there.

I think you are easily good 1-8 here.

Krishan

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Was waiting for someone to post my feelings.

It's hard to articulate, but there is something about this whole thing that makes me want to call.

I agree, 1-8 times, at least, this pot is yours. Call.

I am really surprised that so many people are advocating a fold here. I would definately call. Villain's stats have him relatively aggressive, and there is no good reason for him to check top pair on the flop, so we can pretty much discount the seven. A x giving him two pair is possible, but again I think he may have bet the flop here. A badly played flopped flush looks the most likely hand that beats you. But I still think the times when he tries to represent the scare card you are pretty certain that he hasn't got give you easily enough to call.

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I'd be inclined to fold and would definitely do so if you have more than 200 hands on this guy with those stats.