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Old 12-17-2005, 10:42 PM
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Default A-rag in a tough spot

No read on villain.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero completes, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, UTG calls, MP3 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (8 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, UTG folds, MP3 folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (6 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 9 BB
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Old 12-17-2005, 10:47 PM
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Default Re: A-rag in a tough spot

To be honest, I think I'd be more inclined to just c/f the turn. I suspect you're ahead here so very rarely that the bet/fold is just a waste of a BB.
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Old 12-17-2005, 10:49 PM
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Default Re: A-rag in a tough spot

why did you bet the flop?
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Old 12-17-2005, 10:53 PM
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Default Re: A-rag in a tough spot

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why did you bet the flop?

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So the PFR would blow away the field with hands like KK/JJ/KQ. If he can get another A that's chopping with/beating me to fold, that rules.
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Old 12-17-2005, 10:55 PM
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Default Re: A-rag in a tough spot

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why did you bet the flop?

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So the PFR would blow away the field with hands like KK/JJ/KQ. If he can get another A that's chopping with/beating me to fold, that rules.

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Why do you think he's going to raise with any of those hands? Are you raising with those hands? I'm kind of not, but maybe I'm not playing well...
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Old 12-17-2005, 11:02 PM
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Default Re: A-rag in a tough spot

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why did you bet the flop?

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So the PFR would blow away the field with hands like KK/JJ/KQ. If he can get another A that's chopping with/beating me to fold, that rules.

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Why do you think he's going to raise with any of those hands? Are you raising with those hands? I'm kind of not, but maybe I'm not playing well...

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I'm not either, but lots of players even with good stats seem to think it's "weak" to call or fold with those hands.
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Old 12-17-2005, 11:09 PM
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Default Re: A-rag in a tough spot

I'd check/fold the turn. It seems BB has an Ace and will be seeing a showdown no matter what falls.
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Old 12-17-2005, 11:34 PM
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It seems BB has an Ace and will be seeing a showdown no matter what falls.

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But I'm not sure of this until he raises the turn. The pot is 6BBs on the turn -- don't you think he folds a non-K hand at least 16% of the time? If not, then yes my bet is bad.
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Old 12-18-2005, 12:03 AM
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Fold the flop, I know we shouldt fold for 1 bet, but really, you dont have jack, and look at the board.
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Old 12-18-2005, 12:46 AM
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I'm having a hard time putting villain on a hand that he'll raise the flop with, but won't call down on the turn. I don't think he's going to fold two pair much and will call down instead. He'd have to have a hand like A9s which is unlikely.
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