Mandalay Bay - what's up with the weird rules?

[Howard Burroughs]

I have seen the use of chip racks slow up games IMHO. The other main reason for no chip racks (from my understanding) is that you sometimes get angle shooters who put a hundred dollar bill under their rack where no one can see it. If they want to go all-in (without breaking out the hundred), they do that (I mean, nobody kows it's there after all). If they want to go to war (with lets say....the NUTS!), well the money is on the table so it plays.

I don't like racks on the table in low-limit games myself. What happens in a 40-80 game, I have no idea.

I think racks can be useful in a game with pot-limit/no-limit over buttons, when the money is deep though.

Just my 2 cents.

Howard

[Ed Miller]

Muckleshoot has the "no racks on the table" rule as well. Their stated reason for the rule is so that people can't hide cards under the rack to keep them between hands. They also won't pay off a jackpot if there was a rack on the table during the play of the hand.

[Vehn]

Canterbury is no racks as well. I agree except of course it may take me a while and several table jumps to get to my game - if they'd make an exception occasionally that'd be nice. Couple weeks ago I went like this:

Arrive
Buy rack of blue ($1)
Sit in $3/$6 7CS game
Get called for $4/$8 Omaha/8
Buy 2 racks of yellow chips (2$)
Get called for $6/$12 HE
Get called for $8/$16 HE

All in the course of an hour [img]/forums/images/icons/tongue.gif[/img]

[gdaily]

Hi,

well, at least at pot/nolimit games, those racks can defineately help speed the game up a bit. At limitpoker I guess it has no real effect, or maybe even slows the game down.

I remember last summer during the Orleans Open, we played a 5-10 PLO/PLH game. Buyin was 300. I bought in for 1000, and was running real good, so I had about 3000 in front of me. Opponent had me covered.

Due to quite inexperienced chiprunners, we was playing with 80% $5 chips, a few $25 and of course $100 bills. I had however only a few bills.

Making my all-in bet on the turn, approx 2000, in fivers, and getting called mostly in fivers, that took like forever for the dealer to count down. Dont you think it would have been easier tojust push the racks in the pot?

Well, it was fun stacking all those chips after the pot anyway.

regards
Ola

[chaos]

Playing out of a rack can slow the game down. People tend to remove the chips from the rack one at a time. The solution is not to ban the racks but to have players keep a "working stack" of chips out of the rack.

[gilly]

I agree. In the lower limits the racks definitely slow the game. Nothing is worse that have someone pull out 4 $1 chips from a full rack one at a time. It takes forever.

[TimTimSalabim]

All good, sound, logical reasons, but I suspect the *real* reason that cardrooms like the no-rack rule is that, psychologically, it makes it harder to get up and walk away from a game.

[TobDog]

I remember about a year ago, seeing many of the players taking the loose quarters from each pot off the table and pocketing them, I figured this is a practice of the "gamblers" so they could feed the slots later and have some ammo to do so with, but then I noticed that most of the regulars, anyway the dealers knew their names were the ones that do this. Is there a system that I am missing? Or is it just habit? I always used them when it was my blind or for tipping so I wouldn't have to cash them in later.

[M.B.E.]

<font color="purple">I won't be back, though, because a fight broke out while I was playing, and the floor handled it in an unacceptable manner.</font color>

Do tell. What did the floor do?

[M.B.E.]

<font color="purple">6. No racks on the table, money doesn't play. (good rule) </font color>

Clarkmeister, do you think this is a good rule for all limits? I like having the option of keeping my chips racked. Vancouver casinos don't allow it.