Play from the blinds: KTo

Scuba Chuck · #1 12-20-2005, 06:40 PM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

MP3 (t790)
CO (t150)
Button (t1445)
SB (t785)
Scuba (t800)
UTG (t40)
UTG+1 (t2390) Ks 7s 
MP1 (t800)
MP2 (t800)

Preflop: Scuba is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t15, 1 fold, MP2 calls t15, 1 fold, CO calls t15, 1 fold, SB completes, Scuba checks.

Flop: (t75) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, Scuba checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, CO checks.

Turn: (t75) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, Scuba bets t45, UTG+1 raises to t90, MP2 folds, CO folds, SB folds, Scuba calls t45.

River: (t255) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Scuba checks, UTG+1 bets t175, Scuba calls t175.

Final Pot: t605

#2 12-20-2005, 06:46 PM

I might fold to the river bet but I'm weak/tight so what do I know

pineapple888 · #3 12-20-2005, 06:51 PM

I'll assume this is at the 33s.

Bet the flop.

Not having bet the flop, bet more on the turn, then you can safely fold to a re-raise.

On the river, who knows. I have no idea where you are vs. villain at that point. I guess you have to call.

adanthar · #4 12-20-2005, 09:03 PM

Bet the flop, but since you didn't, I think you have a pretty safe turn fold and an easy river fold.

#5 12-20-2005, 09:10 PM

Check-raising the turn is a better line than calling his minraise. I like the flop check, but neither turn or river call this early.

#6 12-20-2005, 09:31 PM

Only hands I'd be worried about are 22, 77 and a tricky J10 or J10 clubs. AK raises preflop. KQ and KJ bet this flop almost always. KK and QQ raise preflop. QJ might be taking a stab, or AJ or Kx clubs. AQ is possible as well. Q7, K7, K2 and Q2 are not usually limping from UTG+1. You checked the flop and so he probably doesn't think you have a king here. I think you played the river well, losing the least when behind, winning the most when ahead. Although the river bet looks a lot like a value bet, there are plenty of second-best hands and semi-bluffs UTG+1 has here that you beat, and you only have to be right like 1/3 times to make the call CEV+, and you aren't crippled if you're wrong. NH.

bestcellar · #7 12-20-2005, 09:33 PM

UTG+1 has KQ and checked it for some reason on the flop?

#8 12-20-2005, 09:33 PM

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KQ and KJ bet this flop almost always.

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Doesn't KT bet the flop, too?

#9 12-20-2005, 09:41 PM

I agree that usually BB would bet out with k10 to take down the pot on a relatively uncoordinated board. Checking does give you some information, though, when it checks around on the flop. There aren't that many turn cards that will be too scary for us or for our opponents, so the free card wouldn't worry me too much. Checking the flop also keeps the pot smaller OOP and lends some deception to our holding, making 2nd best hands more likely to play back or pay off.

adanthar · #10 12-20-2005, 09:44 PM

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Although the river bet looks a lot like a value bet, there are plenty of second-best hands and semi-bluffs UTG+1 has here that you beat, and you only have to be right like 1/3 times to make the call CEV+, and you aren't crippled if you're wrong. NH.

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Let's try this from another perspective:

Although there are enough semibluffs you need to call this turn raise and you are getting 3:1ish on it, you will see a river bet almost all the time* and will have to pay it off given that you are calling the turn.

*The exception is when a flush hits and villain checks behind. In my experience you aren't ahead often when this happens, either.