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#11
12-18-2005, 11:25 PM
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Re: floped a set...time to get paid
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[ QUOTE ] My reasoning for just calling flop was to try and get money in from the other two guys [/ QUOTE ] There aren't any draws, with that action you are usually getting folds or a push. [/ QUOTE ] Why should he be more inclined to protect his hand on drawless flops than on boards where his opponents could actually have hands he needs to protect against? 
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#12
12-18-2005, 11:26 PM
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Re: floped a set...time to get paid
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[ QUOTE ] Not much you can do if your opponent has Ace high, he is not paying off anything. [/ QUOTE ] That's why I would rather try to get a call on the flop instead of hoping for him to catch on the turn and insta folding to any blank. [/ QUOTE ] What is the benefit to raising the flop if your opponent is drawing dead and will (correctly) fold?
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#13
12-18-2005, 11:29 PM
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Re: floped a set...time to get paid
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[ QUOTE ] Call behind on the flop hoping somebody's got AJ, T9, etc. [/ QUOTE ] Based on the preflop action I doubt UTG or MP2 has AJ or T9, so you are gambling that MP1 has something instead of trying to extract more from MP2 who has shown interest. [/ QUOTE ] After you call the flop you have $160 left in a $100 pot. How hard can it possibly be to get the rest of your stack in with position across two more betting rounds? What's the rush?
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#14
12-18-2005, 11:29 PM
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Re: floped a set...time to get paid
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Since when does a minraise in a multiway reraised pot not look at all strong? [/ QUOTE ] I didn't say it wasn't strong. [ QUOTE ] After you call the flop you have $160 left in a $100 pot. How hard can it possibly be to get the rest of your stack in with position across two more betting rounds? What's the rush? [/ QUOTE ] Everybody seems to think villain doesn't have anything and is looking to fold. If that's the case, in my experience, some donk at Party NL200 calling a minraise, is more likely than someone calling a blank turn if they check it. I don't think villain is that weak based on the preflop action. Although UTG only raised to 4, MP2 didn't seem worried about getting re-raised again preflop, so I wouldn't rule out an overpair.
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#16
12-18-2005, 11:42 PM
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Re: floped a set...time to get paid
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If he has an overpair then what's wrong with calling? [/ QUOTE ] Absolutely nothing. Most of the time I would call, but OP gives no read on villain, so I tend to post based on what I have seen lately, which has been aggressive donks thinking I am making a play more than smart thinking players [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] If OP had said villain was solid, then I would say call.
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#17
12-18-2005, 11:52 PM
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Re: floped a set...time to get paid
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[ QUOTE ] My reasoning for just calling flop was to try and get money in from the other two guys [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] There aren't any draws, with that action you are usually getting folds or a push. [/ QUOTE ] Why should he be more inclined to protect his hand on drawless flops than on boards where his opponents could actually have hands he needs to protect against? [/ QUOTE ] If someone checks a strong hand and gets a raise and a call behind, I don't think they are usually calling.
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#20
12-19-2005, 12:14 AM
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Re: floped a set...time to get paid
Certainly you would be challenging the CB with a raise, but you mighht take the pot down for no gain. A call hopefully gets at least one other caller. When the turn blanks there just isn't anything there. What kind of hand do you think checks and calls a 1/2 pot turn bet? Villain won't always have a good second-best hand.
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