J2o Blind battle

orange · #1 12-09-2005, 01:46 PM

No Reads. These situations are confusing as [censored].

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Button ($20.40)
SB ($19.03)
Hero ($27.45)
UTG ($7.55)
UTG+1 ($19.24)
MP1 ($25.85)
MP2 ($26.30)
MP3 ($25.45)
CO ($25.90)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
3 folds, MP2 calls $0.25, 4 folds, Hero checks.

Flop: ($0.60) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $0.5, MP2 raises to $3, Hero calls $2.50.

Turn: ($6.60) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets $5, Hero calls $5.

River: ($16.60) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Villan goes all in for $18.05. Hero calls $18.05.

beavens · #2 12-09-2005, 01:50 PM

this is a WA/WB situation.

i would probably raise the turn and commit the villian. if he has top 2 then nh. doubtful he's got 22, so we're only worried about 77.

i'm thinking he's just got a naked J here.

#3 12-09-2005, 01:55 PM

These situations suck. Even with reads, there's not much you can do.

My thoughts:

- Villian limped preflop. This makes it much more likely for him to be on a pocket pair than big pockets (QQ-AA)

- He raises the flop, and continues to bet when no overcard hits. HOWEVER, he pushes all-in on the river. Let's think about this:

If you were holding something like AJ, raised the flop got called, then bet the turn and got called, would you really push all-in on the river?

IMO, most likely holdings are:
22,77, J9

That being said, I'm completely torn as to how I'd change this line. I might fold the river, but fairly read dependant

CobraGoat · #4 12-09-2005, 02:02 PM

call the flop raise and lead the turn. then go from there.

EMcWilliams · #5 12-09-2005, 02:41 PM

I think youll see qj, aj, kj, j10 here enough to make the call profitable. No read, but at 25NL on party this is very possible. Those on 25 will go all in on TP more often than you think.

orange · #6 12-09-2005, 03:49 PM

My plan was to call flop and lead a blank turn. But I wasn't really sure where I stood- does anyone think a c/r A.I. on turn would have been better?

#7 12-09-2005, 03:58 PM

That flop bet sure looks like 77 to me...if he's tag, a fold is correct, yes?

orange · #8 12-09-2005, 04:00 PM

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That flop bet sure looks like 77 to me...if he's tag, a fold is correct, yes?

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Maybe. But then again, I have no reads. I need to get PT I think. Any more responses before I give results?

beavens · #9 12-09-2005, 04:14 PM

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That flop bet sure looks like 77 to me...if he's tag, a fold is correct, yes?

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Maybe. But then again, I have no reads. I need to get PT I think. Any more responses before I give results?

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i'm sticking with Jx.. let's see it (you can keep the results in white in case more discussion sparks up)

orange · #10 12-09-2005, 04:18 PM

Results:

Hero holds the winning hand with J2, villan mucks. I can't find the HH, so I cant tell what he had.