How is my line (PP $5/$10 - TT)?

angst · #1 10-26-2005, 04:12 PM

MP is 33/8/0.7 over 300 hands.
CO is 55/28/1.8 over 50 hands.

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP raises, CO calls, Button calls, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, MP calls, CO calls, Button calls.

Flop: (13 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets, MP raises, CO calls, Button folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (9.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, MP calls, CO calls.

River: (12.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, MP calls, CO folds.

Final Pot: 14.50 BB

How is my line?

spydog · #2 10-26-2005, 04:18 PM

I would 3-bet the flop and go from there. If you get raised on the turn by MP or CO then you can probably let it go.

jba · #3 10-26-2005, 04:21 PM

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I would 3-bet the flop and go from there. If you get raised on the turn by MP or CO then you can probably let it go.

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my first thought too.

What do you put MP on? he's a bit passive dont you think?

kelvin474 · #4 10-26-2005, 04:22 PM

spydog, can we checkfold the turn UI if MP caps the flop?

kelvin474 · #5 10-26-2005, 04:23 PM

Yeah I think he has 99/JJ/QQ most of the time based on the preflop and flop action. I vote for JJ or 99 by the river.

jt1 · #6 10-26-2005, 04:24 PM

Why did you choose to stop and go? I prefer either calling down or calling and waiting to the river to re-take the lead or 3 betting the flop and leading until challenged or check raising the turn.

I don't like calling down or the calldown/river lead because your position is first and the CO is willing to gamble.

Check raising the turn is okay. 3 betting the flop is probably best due to the CO.

spydog · #7 10-26-2005, 04:31 PM

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spydog, can we checkfold the turn UI if MP caps the flop?

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Well, he didn't cap preflop so I doubt he is on KK/AA. I'd be really surprised by a flop cap here. I think check-folding is probably correct, though.

RunDownHouse · #8 10-26-2005, 04:31 PM

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Yeah I think he has 99/JJ/QQ most of the time based on the preflop and flop action. I vote for JJ or 99 by the river.

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I think you can rule out JJ or QQ based on the preflop action.

I also 3bet the flop. The only time I like the SNG is if I'm specifically trying to prevent a free card, usually against flush draws. Here I think you're ahead way too often, so either 3bet the flop or c/r the turn. I prefer 3betting the flop because a lot of times I'll freeze up and just call down if an over hits on the turn, and there are too many overs to your pair possible here.

angst · #9 10-26-2005, 04:35 PM

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What do you put MP on?

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Why did you choose to stop and go?

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I was frightened by MP's raise on the flop. I'm always careful when passives wake up, obviously. He could quite possibly hold a 7. Since I only called the flop raise, I donked the turn for information when the Q fell. Since they both just called I was pretty sure I was ahead, with a very small (pre flop action) possibility of one of them holding JJ.

KDawgCometh · #10 10-26-2005, 06:52 PM

Honestly, I'd venture just a call PF here. Being OOP in a four way raised pot generally sucks balls. I kinda like the stop n go more then straight up three betting it. We may be able to get him to incorrectly fold JJ here, and I highly doubt that QQ is around given the PF action.

HIs raise protects your hand for you. Three betting the flop also has its merits too, as I can see you being ahead here a good amount. Just because he raises only 8% of his hands, doesn't mean that he won't do weird ass [censored] when he does raise(meaning, I could see him turning up A8s)